Why Can't Christians & Muslims Co-Exist?

[connoiseur]

Or Jews and Muslims?

Christians and Muslims both recognize Jesus Christ but history and present events show that Christians (including Jews) and Muslims can not co-exist peacefully.

We all believe in one God. We should be able to live together without hatred and violence.

[AoteaRoa]

I wish...

But here are a couple of questions I would like answered:

- Why do most terrorists are muslims?
- Does that mean their religion, or the Koran promote terrorism?

[BenLopez]

Speaking of muslims...
Adu dan dita Laoag - kasla met tay pada da idiay Quiapo, adu dagiti lako da nga kua... naduma-duma.

Ngem makapag-co-exist da met... at least for the time being :)

Sapay koma ta agtul-tuloy ti kapya.

[mrnoel]

adda kabagiak nga muslim..... ni antik dati nga kristiyano ngem inasawa ti muslim, isu nga nagmuslim... nasasayaat da met no inkami diay muslim compound.. no madanunan ti december 24, umay ni antik ken dagitay kakasinsin ko ta bacarra. umay da agibunong ti paskua mi. (asideg manen ti 24 :lol: )

no ngamin makabasul tay muslim, ireport ta radyo wenno telebisyon, muslim kunada... ngem no kristiyano ti makabasol, saan da met nga ibaga ti kristiyano. nasay-sayaat no tay nagan na latta ti ibagadan saan nga tay (ethnicity) da... that is discrimination...

anyway... sapay ta agtul-tuloy ti kapya.
PEACE! V

[Maharlika]

Nasayaat met ket dagiti kaaduan na nga muslim ngem adda latta met dagitay itta nga mailalaok. Kasla kom da Abu Sabaya/Abu Sayyaf, Saddam, Bin Laden Al Ghozi.

Umanamongak iti dayta kunam mrnoel. Diay latta naganen a koma ti ibaga da.

[CLONED]

Uray siguro diay nagan na latta ti ibaga da ket mailasin mo ni kristiyano wenno muslim.

mrnoel:
Apay no ni diay koma nangasawa kenni anti'm ti nag-convert? Madi? Curioussak laeng.

Uray ti Iglesia Ni Cristo ket kasta dan sa? Masapul nga ag-convert diay asawaen da.

[Roldan]

I wish...

But here are a couple of questions I would like answered:

- Why do most terrorists are muslims?
- Does that mean their religion, or the Koran promote terrorism?

There are also Christian terrorists and we are not just aware of them.
Some consider the IRA as terrorists.

[Greggy]

Or Jews and Muslims?

Christians and Muslims both recognize Jesus Christ but history and present events show that Christians (including Jews) and Muslims can not co-exist peacefully.

We all believe in one God. We should be able to live together without hatred and violence.
Well, I guess Laoag is an exception.
Christians and Muslims are co-existing peacefully :lol:

[mrnoel]

kunada madi nga ma convert ti muskim nga agbalin nga kristiyano... ngem no siak nga maysa mabalin latta.... anyway, isu ti pammati da...

[Alistair]

Hello folks!

Today, December 10 is International Human Rights Day.

Let us respect everyone?s right to life.
We can show our respect to others? lives in so many ways. For instance, by being careful on our driving. Let us also respect the lives of the unborn. Even this fetus in the womb of a mother has the right to live. Stop abortion.

We are all humans, black or white. Brown or yellow. Christian or Muslim. Filipino or Filipino-Canadian, Filipino-American, etc?

Let us all respect each other.

Respectfully Yours,
Alistair

[BenLopez]

kunada madi nga ma convert ti muskim nga agbalin nga kristiyano... ngem no siak nga maysa mabalin latta.... anyway, isu ti pammati da...
Nu mabalin ti kristiyano nga ag-convert iti Islam, mabalin met ngarud ti muslim nga ag-convert iti Christian. Mabalin latta. :)

[Anakin Skywalker]

Unless I become a muslim myself, I can't comment on these muslim brothers of ours.
It would be prejudice if I have to explain my views - being a Christian.
So why can't they co-exist? Who knows?
I cannot just rely on the things I see around us.

[E-Heads]

Religion is a very sensitive issue.
Wars have been fought over this and many more beliefs and obviously, the difference of religion is the reason the middle east is in turmoil today.

[trapper]

If your Christian, then the Muslims are terrorist.
If you Muslim, then the Christians are terrorist.

etc..

To some Muslim organizations, western thinking will destroy the world. They really believe this sooo strongly that they will do anything to stop the western people.


To some Christian organazions (USA) the Muslims taking this stand against the wester world is an act of terroism, and then feel they must be stopped.

It's all relative..but it's also all so stupid.
Neither religion is better that the other...the Christians did the same thing years ago. Childrens cursades, and such.
At one time the Roman Catholic Church was Pro-Genocide.

All Religions suck! They are the number one excuse to go to war.

[Trinity]

You don't have any religion, do you Travis?

I know many Muslims who are not violent. All of them are friendly. It's just that there are some of them who are just that - fanatics.

Sometimes, people see more of the bad side than the good side.

[trapper]

I was born an Anglican, but I have not practiced it since I was 7 years old.
I don't belive in any organized religion anymore.

Any way I do agree with you, I have many Muslim friends, and not a single one of them is terrorist.

Perhaps I am being missunderstood in last post. The point I was try to make, is that you can not labe one regligious group a terrorist.
Terrorism is reletive to the beholder. What Terrorizes me, may not seem so terrible to you, and vice versa.

What really erks me is when people say, "most terrorist are muslims".
Where is the proof of that. What is your definition of terroism.
Per - Capita the USA houses takes the prize for most terrorist.
Just look at all the gangs, drug dearlers, crooked cops, and corrupt judges.
Mass suicides, Rapists, child abusers.
I know every country has these kinds of people, but believe me, America is a pretty small palce (population wise) and they are infested with thest types of terrorist.

My 2 cents.
Travis

[FlushedMX]

I don't have anything againts our muslim brothers but I do believe there must be a reason to the notion that "most terrorists are muslims".

Pardon me that I said that. But the mediA fed me with the news.

So, am I to blame?

[ROXYBLUE]

Yes, I believe the media is partly to blame because of this “notion”.
In most cases, reporters almost always mention the person's religion.
Are the names, location not enough to id him?

[trapper]

Yes the media is to blame.

If the media mention every god fearing christian, that help people hostage, murdered and raped women and childeren you would be afraid of Christians.

Just pick up a paper, or watch local US news feeds. There is always a story of white american that has murdered his wife and kids, or went to work with a shotgun and bloew everyone away, or commit random acts of violence, murder, rape, theft...

If you ask me there are way more terrorist in the US, then all muslim countries combined...
My god the judges have to put criminals back on the street, becase the jails are full.

The only difference between the criminals in the US and the "Muslim Terrorist" are that the US media does not name the religiona all the criminals in the use, when crimes are committed.

You don't have to strap a bomb to your waist be labled a terrorist.
US Gangs, cause just as much terror as any suicide bomber.

Open your minds.
See the truth for what is it.
Step out of the "Matrix" and have a look around at the reall world.
Compare and contrast everything you see in the media, especially the US media.
and for god sakes, your not marianets, so cut the strings, and think freely.

Thats my rant for this topic.
8O

[LastUnicorn]

Maybe Greggy.. That shows maybe that the people in Laoag are more caring and have more tolerance for their fellow man. If only the world would follow suit..We can only pray..

[Myrna]

I live in the USA but I have been in the middle east, and I have muslim friends, and I can tell you that they are good, most of them don't agree with the so called terrorist...there are bad guys everywhere..not just the muslims... most muslims are God fearing , like us christians...

[connoiseur]

The media. That's it!
Where is responsible reporting?
That's why sometimes, I am hesitant to believe what I see/hear from the news.

It is now our responsibility to verify what's being fed to us.

[ROXYBLUE]

The media. That's it!
Where is responsible reporting?
That's why sometimes, I am hesitant to believe what I see/hear from the news.

It is now our responsibility to verify what's being fed to us.
I am not going to watch/read news only to verify it from another news source :)

[Myrna]

I pray that these problems will be resolved so that we can also live without worrying for any bomb attack......that is also one reason that I rarely go shopping on malls since 9/11... I shop on line....

[ROXYBLUE]

Wen aglalo ditoy metro naka-am-amak.
SM mayat nga target ti Abu Sayyaf.
May-mayat sa nga agpayson ti ag-shop thru d internet.

[los_ilocanoz]

I wish...

But here are a couple of questions I would like answered:

- Why do most terrorists are muslims?
- Does that mean their religion, or the Koran promote terrorism?


muslims are born to protect what the koran says,kaya ganun na lang cla kung makipaglaban...

[BB-M]

Some are fanatics, others are true believers.

Now, which category those who abduct and behead innocent people?

Isn't that a savage act?
I'm sure "Allah" doesn't command our muslim brothers to commit such an act.

[ROXYBLUE]

Wen aya? uray dtoy pilipinas adda met binehead da idi? Diay missionary.
Nakaam-amak.

[connoiseur]

Hello folks!

Today, December 10 is International Human Rights Day.

Let us respect everyone?s right to life.
We can show our respect to others? lives in so many ways. For instance, by being careful on our driving. Let us also respect the lives of the unborn. Even this fetus in the womb of a mother has the right to live. Stop abortion.

We are all humans, black or white. Brown or yellow. Christian or Muslim. Filipino or Filipino-Canadian, Filipino-American, etc?

Let us all respect each other.

Respectfully Yours,
Alistair
Everyday should be International Human Rights day :)

[Myrna]

Hello folks!

Today, December 10 is International Human Rights Day.

Let us respect everyone?s right to life.
We can show our respect to others? lives in so many ways. For instance, by being careful on our driving. Let us also respect the lives of the unborn. Even this fetus in the womb of a mother has the right to live. Stop abortion.

We are all humans, black or white. Brown or yellow. Christian or Muslim. Filipino or Filipino-Canadian, Filipino-American, etc?

Let us all respect each other.

Respectfully Yours,
Alistair
Everyday should be International Human Rights day :)Should be that way....

Most of the muslims say they are ashamed of what Bin Laden is doing....using their religion to spread fear......and they(al qaeda) are the ones giving bad reputation about the muslims....I pray that we can live together,( what ever race or religion) in peace....

[Anakin Skywalker]

....we can live together,( what ever race or religion) in peace.... Too bad not in our lifetime, but as the great John Lennon once said, regardless of our religious inclinations, we should try to at least "GIVE PEACE A CHANCE"...

[Myrna]

....we can live together,( what ever race or religion) in peace.... Too bad not in our lifetime, but as the great John Lennon once said, regardless of our religious inclinations, we should try to at least "GIVE PEACE A CHANCE"...at least.... if that happens.....our children, and our childrens children will benefit ......

[gr8-one]

Very touchy subject........

I don't have anything againts our muslim brothers but I do believe there must be a reason to the notion that "most terrorists are muslims".

Munich (Germany), 1972 Olympics, when 11 Israeli athletes were murdered in cold blood by Palestinian Muslims disguised as skiiers with ski masks.

Being that this was the Olympic Games, the cold-blooded killings of the 11 innocent Isareli athletes were broadcasted on worldwide televisions via ABC. The event wasn't only witnessed by adults but children of all ages as well.

This is the single most incriminating event that tarnished the Muslim image. After the "Black September" (as they called themselves) killed the Israeli athletes, Muslim/Islam and terrorism became synonymous.

I have not seen the Quran but I heard that it teaches to "KILL THE ENEMY or THE INFIDELS or WHOEVER OPPOSES ISLAM". If this is true, it is in direct contrast to what Jesus teaches in the Bible when he said: NU TIRWEN DA KA ITI BATO, TIRWEM IDA TI TINAPAY - please somebody translate that in English.

I find Jesus' teachings to be radical at best as in: NU TUNGPAEN DA TA MAYSA A PINGPING MO, ISARANG MO PAY TA MAYSA". As a human being, it's difficult to obey his teachings! It's a GODLY act.

So if I were to draw my own conclusion it would be like so: While Islam teaches conventional wisdom, it encourages violence. Christianity, on the other hand, encourages restraint and teaches even to love your enemies or those you hate (very unconventional indeed)

[MHTS]

Very interesting...

Although I perceive the teachings of Christ as mainly teachings to follow (not litterally do). It doesn't mean you throw back a real bread if they threw at you a real stone - similarly you wouldn't open up your other face to be spanked if they spanked you once. Furthermore, we really don't have to forgive those who did something to us, seventy seven fold times... Christianity teaches GOOD, in general. Love them, though they hate you...

On the contrary, gr8-one covered how Quoran teaches violence against anyone who opposes them, it basically the opposite of Christianity... I don't know how they can go together...

That's why they don't put an ox and a bull as pair in a yoke to cultivate the soil... they don't go together...

[gr8-one]

Lakay, I think there is a movie by Spielberg about that 1972 Munich Olympic Games and I would surely love to watch it on DVD.

Anyway, I think I may have gone too far in concluding that the Quran encourages violence. I am certain that it also teaches peace but central to the idea that it encourages violence is its call to "jihad" - or Holy War.

Over the years, I have come to understand that "jihad" is somewhat a legal means (at least, from the Islamic side) to achieve a goal.

From my own christian POV though, WAR is not the answer and neither is "jihad".

And besides, what is so Holy about War, anyway?

[juVans]

NU TIRWEN DA KA ITI BATO, TIRWEM IDA TI TINAPAY




There is a modern translation of that saying, and it goes like this:


If someone throw a stone to you, throw them the BAKERY, and not the hot pandesal.


:lol: :D :lol:


Anyway, Koran is no difference to Bible, because both books promote peace and advocate violence at the same time.

[asquilala]

Gr8-one gave one of the answers why Muslims resort to violence. I knew this for a fact having spent 5 years in Saudi Arabia.
The two biggest personalities of Muslims, Muhammad and Saladin, are great warriors. Muslims, given to the same situation as these two great Muslims were in, they believe that they will be exalted the same way. This is in comparison with the Christian faith in the person of Jesus Christ and St Paul. They are both non-violence advocates. Jesus Christ in his dying hours forgave two criminals. That is the essence of Christianity, forgiveness. Sainthood is the greatest honor a devout Catholic will receive and are given to those who did good things for the faith.
It is also important to note that Muslims believe that Islam is the only true religion and believe that Mohammad is the last prophet. They believe that Jesus Christ is only a prophet. They believe that they are the only one that will be saved from hell. With this belief, they have the tendency of indifference to other religion.