How can we help our own Ilocos Norte while miles away.

[JOSHRAVEN]

While you are away from the province maybe in Manila or abroad, how can you help the people you left behind?

While you are in the province, what help you need or what help you can give?

Maybe politicians, investors and good samaritans would appear and do something.

To start with, we need Industries that produce employment to our provincial gradutes.

[Maharlika]

Excellent post!
As an expat (as opposed to OCW or OFCW), I've been sending little amounts of dollars to my relatives I left there. I wish I could do more but I am only limited by my available resources.
I think this comes naturally to every Fil. expat (Ilocano, Tagalog, etc.). :lol:

[BB-M]

Hey guys!
What do you say we pool all our resources and put up something of value in Laoag City, you know, something that would be of help to the community. :lol:

[Greggy]

Tourism-related might be a viable investment.

One thing we could do is to invite our friends to visit Ilocos Norte/Laoag City so that they can see first-hand the province's potential for a successful investment.

Also, Ilocos Norte Online should make itself available at all times as a vehicle for information dissemination so that the whole world may be made aware of the possibilities and potentials of doing business in Ilocos Norte.

Having said that, Ilocos Norte Online should focus not only in community building but also in spreading business-related information in the province and showcasing all the things that Ilocos Norte and Laoag City have to offer.

Lastly, as an INOLer, we should be involved in making the above happen. How?

Provide worthy information. Also, when criticizing our politikos (in the forum for instance), we must make sure that we have the correct information as basis for such criticism. Remember, these criticisms can either help or destroy us.

Imagine a potential investor reads about a mayor who is wickedly corrupt. I assure you he wouldn't think twice and he would start to look for a more business-friendly environment/place. On the other hand, if we just watch these crooks and political hooligans do their own thing, they will keep doing it - because nobody is complaining.

It's a double-eged sword. Let's just try to be as fair as we can.

[Anakin Skywalker]

Tourism-related might be a viable investment.

One thing we could do is to invite our friends to visit Ilocos Norte/Laoag City so that they can see first-hand the province's potential for a successful investment.

Also, Ilocos Norte Online should make itself available at all times as a vehicle for information dissemination so that the whole world may be made aware of the possibilities and potentials of doing business in Ilocos Norte.

Having said that, Ilocos Norte Online should focus not only in community building but also in spreading business-related information in the province and showcasing all the things that Ilocos Norte and Laoag City have to offer.

Lastly, as an INOLer, we should be involved in making the above happen. How?

Provide worthy information. Also, when criticizing our politikos (in the forum for instance), we must make sure that we have the correct information as basis for such criticism. Remember, these criticisms can either help or destroy us.

Imagine a potential investor reads about a mayor who is wickedly corrupt. I assure you he wouldn't think twice and he would start to look for a more business-friendly environment/place. On the other hand, if we just watch these crooks and political hooligans do their own thing, they will keep doing it - because nobody is complaining.

It's a double-eged sword. Let's just try to be as fair as we can.

Bring it on!

[Anakin Skywalker]

While you are away from the province maybe in Manila or abroad, how can you help the people you left behind?

While you are in the province, what help you need or what help you can give?

Maybe politicians, investors and good samaritans would appear and do something.

To start with, we need Industries that produce employment to our provincial gradutes.
We already have excellent road networks and that's a good start.

We would need to develop the things that we already have.
Develop the empanada, the miki, bagnet & chicharon, cornik, the abel iluko and all the things that are well-known, and well-associated with the province to meet international tourism standards. This way, we can sell these products to foreigners - and not only to local tourists.

Also, develop our coastal natural resources to become at par with those of Boracay and Palawan.

[gr8-one]

Tourism-related might be a viable investment.

One thing we could do is to invite our friends to visit Ilocos Norte/Laoag City so that they can see first-hand the province's potential for a successful investment.

Also, Ilocos Norte Online should make itself available at all times as a vehicle for information dissemination so that the whole world may be made aware of the possibilities and potentials of doing business in Ilocos Norte.

Having said that, Ilocos Norte Online should focus not only in community building but also in spreading business-related information in the province and showcasing all the things that Ilocos Norte and Laoag City have to offer.

Lastly, as an INOLer, we should be involved in making the above happen. How?

Provide worthy information. Also, when criticizing our politikos (in the forum for instance), we must make sure that we have the correct information as basis for such criticism. Remember, these criticisms can either help or destroy us.

Imagine a potential investor reads about a mayor who is wickedly corrupt. I assure you he wouldn't think twice and he would start to look for a more business-friendly environment/place. On the other hand, if we just watch these crooks and political hooligans do their own thing, they will keep doing it - because nobody is complaining.

It's a double-eged sword. Let's just try to be as fair as we can.
What I would do to help Ilocos Norte?
As an expat I've contemplated on donating perhaps a PC (& other learning materials) to my alma mater (elem) to start with. And I would donate more as they become available until the school's needs are met. Of course, that would also rely heavily on the availability of funds - and the stock market :hb: :lol:

But yes, if there's anyone out there who came from the same school as I do (CES, Bacarra), contact me. Well, that doesn't cover the whole of Ilocos Norte but quite a good start, right? :lol:

Start with the kids' education & we can't go wrong :lol:

Cheers!

[FlushedMX]

As someone who?s at home, I need to be self-reliant and not just depend on the government?s help or subsidy. The problem with most of us back here is, we depend a little too much from the government, which by the way cannot be depended upon ? most times :x

By being self-reliant, the government will have a little less burden :lol:

As far as the help that we need, well, we need just about any help you guys can provide :lol:

[BeefPapaitan]

How about inviting businesssmen to invest on some businesses and Help Ilocos Norte develop its own technology?

[JOSHRAVEN]

Hey guys!
What do you say we pool all our resources and put up something of value in Laoag City, you know, something that would be of help to the community.

This is ok, we pool our resources and put up something in Laoag or any part of Ilocos Norte. We can make an organization or cooperative and start doing business in Ilocos. But since cooperative is most likely to die when a politician is embedded in such, then elininate those politicians. Sorry if ever there is one here but that's my experienced.

Old computer will be send there, distributed or sold at low price just to cover shipping and some other things. If the manager at Ilocos could manage it properly then any proceed would put someone to school. Someone who want to get an education but dont have enough money.

The problem is we dont have enough employments for the graduates. People, is someone have an access to something like technical support? Maybe we could encourage some company to put technical support team in Ilocos Norte, probably Calayab or San Nicolas Highway then this will be great.

[BB-M]

I am sure there are "technically-savvy ilocanos" around who may lend their know-hows for free, thus serving as technical support staffer. With internet, one probably doesn't need to be there in Ilocos to provide tech support.
Just a thought...

[Roldan]

I am sure there are "technically-savvy ilocanos" around who may lend their know-hows for free, thus serving as technical support staffer. With internet, one probably doesn't need to be there in Ilocos to provide tech support.
Just a thought...
Yeah, there maybe some volunteers (in ilocos) but who's going to pay for their internet connection? :lol:

[Kilroy]

As someone who?s at home, I need to be self-reliant and not just depend on the government?s help or subsidy. The problem with most of us back here is, we depend a little too much from the government, which by the way cannot be depended upon ? most times :x

By being self-reliant, the government will have a little less burden :lol:

As far as the help that we need, well, we need just about any help you guys can provide :lol:
What we really need right now is to be self-reliant.
Sariling Sikap nga kunada.

[FlushedMX]

As someone who?s at home, I need to be self-reliant and not just depend on the government?s help or subsidy. The problem with most of us back here is, we depend a little too much from the government, which by the way cannot be depended upon ? most times :x

By being self-reliant, the government will have a little less burden :lol:

As far as the help that we need, well, we need just about any help you guys can provide :lol:
What we really need right now is to be self-reliant.
Sariling Sikap nga kunada.
Nu dadauma sariling-sikwat met ti pamay-an da.

Ala, sapay koma ta matungpal dayta nga panggep yo ket nu anya man ti maitulong mi nga adda ditoy a ket itulong mi. Nasayaat unay :)
Planuen tayo ngarud nga nasayaat.

how can I help my hometown if I cant even HELP myself?

[dynamiclinklibrary]

tsk, tsk, kaasi ka pay a ngar'd :lol:

[gr8-one]

As someone who?s at home, I need to be self-reliant and not just depend on the government?s help or subsidy. The problem with most of us back here is, we depend a little too much from the government, which by the way cannot be depended upon ? most times :x

By being self-reliant, the government will have a little less burden :lol:

As far as the help that we need, well, we need just about any help you guys can provide :lol:
What we really need right now is to be self-reliant.
Sariling Sikap nga kunada.
Nu dadauma sariling-sikwat met ti pamay-an da.

Ala, sapay koma ta matungpal dayta nga panggep yo ket nu anya man ti maitulong mi nga adda ditoy a ket itulong mi. Nasayaat unay :)
Planuen tayo ngarud nga nasayaat.
Malagip ko daytoy adda iti proyekto ni Marcos idi isuna pay iti presidente ket imbes nga "Sariling Sikap" ibaga da nga "Sariling Sikwat" :)

[Unai]

:lol: Sariling Sikwat a ta agkurakot da ti kayat na nga sawen.

[JOSHRAVEN]

Sariling Sikap that leads to selfishness. Now that there are people to help. People of Ilocos norte what are you doing? Help yourself.

Kaasi pay tay dina matulungan ti bagabagi na. Sige ngarud tung-it ditoy tung-it diddiay. "Tay nuang nuang nu malakayan nga dina ammo agarado narigat nga sursuruan."


how can I help my hometown if I cant even HELP myself?


Location mo apo?

Isu ngarud nga agawis tayo ti tumulong kadatayo. :roll:

[Anakin Skywalker]

Tong-it, mahjong, jueteng.
Nu mai-tsamba apo ket mayat met :lol:

[BB-M]

Tong-it, mahjong, jueteng.
:lol:
These are the things that make Pinoys "indolent".
These give them the false hope of getting out of poverty.
Something has to be done to rid our province with these betting games especially "jueteng"

[Greggy]

Pumal-palalon sa ti jueteng ta nanayonan kano iti "draws" every month. Dati dati ket maminsan lang ti makabulan itatta ket mamintallo kanu'n?

[mg_vic]

Nagpintas koma daytoy nu matungpal kakabsat ket sapay koma ta kasta.

Ammo yo nu dadduma (puwera delos buenos kunak man laengen), adda dagitay kakabsat nga uray kasanu ti kadalus ti panggep mo haan da nga maawatan ket umsien da ka pay nu tumulong ka kadakuada. Diak ammo nu apay adda kakastoy nga tattao ngem maibagak laeng daytoy gapu ta nagpasarakon iti kastoy. Napadasakon. Imbes nga agyaman wenno maragsakan da koma haan ta ibaga da nga "agin-lalaing" wenno agin-babaknangak kanu.
Nabainanak pay. Gapu iti dayta, diak ngad lang intul-tuloyen ti itutulong ko koma.

Sapay koma ta daytoy nga ganwat yo ket agballaigi!

[Maharlika]

Nagpintas koma daytoy nu matungpal kakabsat ket sapay koma ta kasta.

Ammo yo nu dadduma (puwera delos buenos kunak man laengen), adda dagitay kakabsat nga uray kasanu ti kadalus ti panggep mo haan da nga maawatan ket umsien da ka pay nu tumulong ka kadakuada. Diak ammo nu apay adda kakastoy nga tattao ngem maibagak laeng daytoy gapu ta nagpasarakon iti kastoy. Napadasakon. Imbes nga agyaman wenno maragsakan da koma haan ta ibaga da nga "agin-lalaing" wenno agin-babaknangak kanu.
Nabainanak pay. Gapu iti dayta, diak ngad lang intul-tuloyen ti itutulong ko koma.

Sapay koma ta daytoy nga ganwat yo ket agballaigi!
Nagloko da metten mg Vic!
Uray siak ket mabainanak siguro. Dagitoy klase nga tattao ket dagitay napnuan iti "Foolish Pride" nga kunada. Haan nga nasayaat nga tulungan dagitay kakastoy.
Nupay nu kasta ket ala sangalen tayo ngarud iti itutulong tayo met iti probinsiya tayo.

[JOSHRAVEN]

Husto ni Mg Vic, adu ti talaga ti kasta at ad-adu kano ti kuarta da ngem dagiti agbakbakasyon. Husto nga adadu ti kuarta da ngem adadu met ti marigatan kadakuada aglalo dagitay katulong da. Para kadakuada nu tulungam tay trabahador da awan ton ti matangdanan da nga agubra para kadakuada. Nu dadduma dagitay kadauda iti adayo ti magtrigger kadagitay ka provinsyaan tayo nga agsao ti kasta, ta ti kuna da met: Hu ni kastoy ti tumulong ket para walis lang diay Mall ta LA kunada met.

Isu ti kunak met saan nga deretso nga tulong nu diket pagbannogan da met a. Business nga may patakder, agsueldo ta agtrabaho, ti maganansia na nu adda itulong kadagiti agbasbasa ta nu agraduate da tulungan dan to met dagitay naududi.

Kasla, pagbasaen ke ngem pagbasaem tu met ti maysa nga kabagiam wenno kaillam. Kasla networtking, adda kontrata na tapno sigurado nga agturpos.

[sadiri]

Husto ni Mg Vic, adu ti talaga ti kasta at ad-adu kano ti kuarta da ngem dagiti agbakbakasyon. Husto nga adadu ti kuarta da ngem adadu met ti marigatan kadakuada aglalo dagitay katulong da. Para kadakuada nu tulungam tay trabahador da awan ton ti matangdanan da nga agubra para kadakuada. Nu dadduma dagitay kadauda iti adayo ti magtrigger kadagitay ka provinsyaan tayo nga agsao ti kasta, ta ti kuna da met: Hu ni kastoy ti tumulong ket para walis lang diay Mall ta LA kunada met.

Isu ti kunak met saan nga deretso nga tulong nu diket pagbannogan da met a. Business nga may patakder, agsueldo ta agtrabaho, ti maganansia na nu adda itulong kadagiti agbasbasa ta nu agraduate da tulungan dan to met dagitay naududi.

Kasla, pagbasaen ke ngem pagbasaem tu met ti maysa nga kabagiam wenno kaillam. Kasla networtking, adda kontrata na tapno sigurado nga agturpos.
Napintas daytoy napanunotam kabsat.
Iti kasta nga wagas, siyempre igaed da iti agadal wenno agtrabaho.

Daydi tatangko kasta ti kinunana kadakami nga agkakabsat gapu iti kinarigat ti panagbiag mi. Napagbasada dagiti dua nga inaunaan mi ket idi kuan isuda metten ti kangrunaan nga nangisakad iti panagadal mi nga naud-udi nu man pay tumultulong met laeng di tatangmi.

[Greggy]

Nagpintas koma daytoy nu matungpal kakabsat ket sapay koma ta kasta.

Ammo yo nu dadduma (puwera delos buenos kunak man laengen), adda dagitay kakabsat nga uray kasanu ti kadalus ti panggep mo haan da nga maawatan ket umsien da ka pay nu tumulong ka kadakuada. Diak ammo nu apay adda kakastoy nga tattao ngem maibagak laeng daytoy gapu ta nagpasarakon iti kastoy. Napadasakon. Imbes nga agyaman wenno maragsakan da koma haan ta ibaga da nga "agin-lalaing" wenno agin-babaknangak kanu.
Nabainanak pay. Gapu iti dayta, diak ngad lang intul-tuloyen ti itutulong ko koma.

Sapay koma ta daytoy nga ganwat yo ket agballaigi!
Naimbag ta dida kunaen nga: "Sikanto pay ti tulongan mi!" :lol:
Sapay koma ta saan nga dayta ti gapu iti diyo/ditayo panangituloy daytoy nga napanunotan yo. Sumagmamano met lang dagitay kasta iti ugali na ket amang nga ad-adu dagitay nasayaat. Isuda latta ti pangigap-gappuan yon/tayon.

[BeefPapaitan]

Hey guys!
What do you say we pool all our resources and put up something of value in Laoag City, you know, something that would be of help to the community.
Maybe we could encourage some company to put technical support team in Ilocos Norte, probably Calayab or San Nicolas Highway then this will be great.

There was a planned Laoag Ecozone in Calayab, but the project was not pushed through...or...not yet...

[Anakin Skywalker]

Hey guys!
What do you say we pool all our resources and put up something of value in Laoag City, you know, something that would be of help to the community.
Maybe we could encourage some company to put technical support team in Ilocos Norte, probably Calayab or San Nicolas Highway then this will be great.

There was a planned Laoag Ecozone in Calayab, but the project was not pushed through...or...not yet...
"Stalled", perhaps is a better word :)
Due to the following reasons:
- lack of funds
- lack of government interest/involvement

[BB-M]

Hey guys!
What do you say we pool all our resources and put up something of value in Laoag City, you know, something that would be of help to the community.
Maybe we could encourage some company to put technical support team in Ilocos Norte, probably Calayab or San Nicolas Highway then this will be great.

There was a planned Laoag Ecozone in Calayab, but the project was not pushed through...or...not yet...
I think that is a part of the "North Luzon Growth Quadrangle"

[Roldan]

Amangan nu nakurakot man ngaminen ti pondo dayta Quadrangle nga dayta? Isun nga na-stall?

[BeefPapaitan]

There was a planned Laoag Ecozone in Calayab, but the project was not pushed through...or...not yet...
"Stalled", perhaps is a better word :)
Due to the following reasons:
- lack of funds
- lack of government interest/involvement[/quote]

Both, probably, hope this project is pushed through like the one they did in Port Irene, Sta. Ana, Cagayan.

[BeefPapaitan]

I think that is a part of the "North Luzon Growth Quadrangle"

Yes, it is, but for commercial, industrial and technological development of Ilocos, particularly Laoag, are lagging behind. :(

[BB-M]

What's in port Irene?
Boy am I that "out of touch"?!

[dynamiclinklibrary]

What's in port Irene?
Boy am I that "out of touch"?!
It is envisioned to be the site of the Cagayan Freeport.
Some of the facilities will include:
- Shipping and other sea-bound transport services
- Warehousing
- Airport and other airport services
- Seacraft and aircraft repair
- Cold Storage

They say the location is ideal for this type of investment because it is along the lines of transhipment betwen the US and China.

[BenLopez]

What's in port Irene?
Boy am I that "out of touch"?!
It is envisioned to be the site of the Cagayan Freeport.
Some of the facilities will include:
- Shipping and other sea-bound transport services
- Warehousing
- Airport and other airport services
- Seacraft and aircraft repair
- Cold Storage

They say the location is ideal for this type of investment because it is along the lines of transhipment betwen the US and China.

Can't they do this at Currimao port?

http://www.ilocosnorte-online.com/our_albums/album13/Picture_735a.sized.jpg

[BB-M]

Well, it seems like Port Irene is strategically located than the Currimao port.

[JOSHRAVEN]

This could not be done in Currimao, it is too shallow for large vessels. Pasuquin-Burgos yata puede kasi malalim, kaso maraming bato sa gitna.

Mag buy and sell na lang ako ng Bote Landok, kaldero lussok. 2pesos per kilo landok dalhin nyo
sa amin. ;)

[BB-M]

This could not be done in Currimao, it is too shallow for large vessels. Pasuquin-Burgos yata puede kasi malalim, kaso maraming bato sa gitna.

Mag buy and sell na lang ako ng Bote Landok, kaldero lussok. 2pesos per kilo landok dalhin nyo
sa amin. ;)
Lucio Tan started out like that :)
Shouting: Aaaaaayyy! Bote-Landok-Paryok-Lussok!!!!

[connoiseur]

This could not be done in Currimao, it is too shallow for large vessels. Pasuquin-Burgos yata puede kasi malalim, kaso maraming bato sa gitna.
Mas bagay pay ketdi diay Currimao a kas "Tourism zone" instead nga freeport zone. Napintas ti beaches ken maysa pay, amangan nu maperdi dagitay coral reefs nu ag-invest da iti kasta dita.


Mag buy and sell na lang ako ng Bote Landok, kaldero lussok. 2pesos per kilo landok dalhin nyo
sa amin. ;)

Lucio Tan started out like that :)
Shouting: Aaaaaayyy! Bote-Landok-Paryok-Lussok!!!!

Yeah, and look at him now.
Ain't life good? :lol:

[JOSHRAVEN]

Yes, It is true I have a contact in Manila to buy your landok at a price higher that 2pesos he will pick up in Ilocos and bring to Manila.

Frankly speaking he would sell that in Manila for 10 pesos for a steel, so this kind of business must be good enough to start with. ;)

[BenLopez]

... that's why Lucio made millions...

[BeefPapaitan]

What's in port Irene?
Boy am I that "out of touch"?!
It is envisioned to be the site of the Cagayan Freeport.
Some of the facilities will include:
- Shipping and other sea-bound transport services
- Warehousing
- Airport and other airport services
- Seacraft and aircraft repair
- Cold Storage

They say the location is ideal for this type of investment because it is along the lines of transhipment betwen the US and China.

it is a complete modern type community. Meron ding complex for businesses usually agri-commercial based. I think matatapos na ata ito, e.

check the site...

www.cagayanfreeport.org

It's location is more strategic than Currimao kasi ang location niya asa may kantong-kanto na mismo, e.

[CLONED]

Yes, It is true I have a contact in Manila to buy your landok at a price higher that 2pesos he will pick up in Ilocos and bring to Manila.

Frankly speaking he would sell that in Manila for 10 pesos for a steel, so this kind of business must be good enough to start with. ;)

Adu ti maganansiya na ngarud a Joshraven :lol:

[JOSHRAVEN]

Yap, its a goob dirty old business nga kunada. Daytay maysa nga nga bimmaknang iti kasta adda ta laoag ni daytay aggatgatang ti mangga iti summer, ammianan ti terminal ti rabit.

[CLONED]

Yap, its a goob dirty old business nga kunada. Daytay maysa nga nga bimmaknang iti kasta adda ta laoag ni daytay aggatgatang ti mangga iti summer, ammianan ti terminal ti rabit.
:lol: Hahaha, kasla am-ammok nu asino daytoy tuk-tukoyem :)

[TCardona]

Lucio Tan started out like that :)
Shouting: Aaaaaayyy! Bote-Landok-Paryok-Lussok!!!!
Sabali met ti malagip ko:
Putoooo!! Puto Kutchintaaaa!!!!
Mapan kami no kua agadas iti balatong ken bawang sa mi isukat iti puto idi :lol:

[mars-cromwell]

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I am not from Baruyen Bangui Iloos Norte, but I heard that the Baruyen Elementary School needs a place for the pupils to study!!! We plan to form the Friends of Baruyen Elementary School Project and to build a 2 story building maybe 3mpesos all, in all, help please raise fund, then after baruyen we do another place, this is not to be politically moptivated project but a heartfelt attitude towards the youth to develop their brain to gain furtehr studies. .. please raise fund,,, and wait for the F.O.B.E.S to be officially introduced to Ilocos norte then when the money is there we can present the donors to the principa and all names of contributors will be in the Book of Baruyen Friends.....We also have Ilocano Club.

At this poin, we can also generate massive tourist attraction in Ilocos Norte if the Laoag International Airport really means as it is named... when can I land In Laoag City,, from Europe!!!!! help

[AoteaRoa]

Right now, LIA has some Interntional flights coming from several asian nations. In fact at one point it has been considered to be the second-busiest airport in the Phils. second only to NAIA in manila.

[BB-M]

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I am not from Baruyen Bangui Iloos Norte, but I heard that the Baruyen Elementary School needs a place for the pupils to study!!! We plan to form the Friends of Baruyen Elementary School Project and to build a 2 story building maybe 3mpesos all, in all, help please raise fund, then after baruyen we do another place, this is not to be politically moptivated project but a heartfelt attitude towards the youth to develop their brain to gain furtehr studies. .. please raise fund,,, and wait for the F.O.B.E.S to be officially introduced to Ilocos norte then when the money is there we can present the donors to the principa and all names of contributors will be in the Book of Baruyen Friends.....We also have Ilocano Club.

You have a very good idea.
I hope you can make it happen.

[JOSHRAVEN]

I just don't know, for me project like government supposed to take care would not ineterest me much. What is DECS doing there? I know that there are projects that are reportedly done but was not even started, and the money was diverted to anything else until it was none.

Anyway ilocos norte online must start adding a feature to accepts donations to certain projects that could accepts credit cards like VISA, MASTER. PAYPAY, Emailed money or PNB Remitance or what so ever.

[Quite_Slurp]

Anyway ilocos norte online must start adding a feature to accepts donations to certain projects that could accepts credit cards like VISA, MASTER. PAYPAY, Emailed money or PNB Remitance or what so ever.
Mayat daytoy koma nga agpayso apo.

[FlushedMX]

Anyway ilocos norte online must start adding a feature to accepts donations to certain projects that could accepts credit cards like VISA, MASTER. PAYPAY, Emailed money or PNB Remitance or what so ever.
Mayat daytoy koma nga agpayso apo.
Yes, but it should be tailored in such a way that people, potential donors will have assurance that their donations will be put to good use as intended.
Let's face it, there will always be doubters. There will always be doubts on whether these donations will ever get to its intended recipient.

Find a way to eliminate this and I am willing to put half of my 1-month paycheck to any Piddig civic project.

[EkeWaka]

Aloha! With the limited knowledge I have regarding your government, I would say, a more active participation in the kind of government you have.. change some laws, get rid of some political venues, and members of the community, make your voices count. In number there is power. Silence is Not golden in this case. and complaining silently is only leaving a legacy to our children, THERE IS NO HOPE for them. I agree with the premises that we must concentrate on our children, for they are our future. We must provide and encourage them on how to think, be individual and strive to better themselves and their community. To often society mumble about how awful life is, but not take the step to do something about it. United State community is no better. We bitch and complain but dont do anything about it. and when we leave this earth. the World is left worst for our children. We are greedy, prejudice, self serving, self centered, or just passive. There must be a happy medium. and if the safety and security of our children is not motivation enough for us to get off our butts and do something, NOW!! than nothing will. I believe a good begining is for us to all get down on our knees and embrace our Heavenly Father into our lives. He will provide us with the guidance, strength and endurance to change this condition. I suggest joining hands and accepting Jesus Christ into our lives. strive to live our life, believing in him and know that he is only a prayer away.. What do you think???

[Greggy]

Aloha EkeWaka, & Mabuhay :)
I embrace your suggestions with delight, but having lived in Ilocos and currently living US, I would like to offer some thoughts - about your thoughts. My 2 cents...

... change some laws, get rid of some political venues, and members of the community, make your voices count. In number there is power. Silence is Not golden in this case. and complaining silently is only leaving a legacy to our children, THERE IS NO HOPE for them.This is a lot easier said than done - with the kind of government that we have in Phils.. Too much red tape. And while nepotism is in every government (US not excluded), it is an incurable disease in a Phil. government setting. Very rampant.

I agree with the premises that we must concentrate on our children, for they are our future. We must provide and encourage them on how to think, be individual and strive to better themselves and their community. To often society mumble about how awful life is, but not take the step to do something about it. United State community is no better.I Agree!

We bitch and complain but dont do anything about it. and when we leave this earth. the World is left worst for our children. We are greedy, prejudice, self serving, self centered, or just passive. There must be a happy medium. and if the safety and security of our children is not motivation enough for us to get off our butts and do something, NOW!! than nothing will.
In the Phils? The best thing one can do is complain, otherwise you'll find yourself in "deep hole", maybe 6 ft deep - and I mean that literally, too. :)
But no, Filipinos have shown to the world what they can do if their rights are violated. Ever heard of people power 1 & 2? 3, they say, might not be too far away :lol:

I believe a good begining is for us to all get down on our knees and embrace our Heavenly Father into our lives. He will provide us with the guidance, strength and endurance to change this condition. I suggest joining hands and accepting Jesus Christ into our lives. strive to live our life, believing in him and know that he is only a prayer away.. What do you think???I agree.
The Phils. is the only predominantly Christian nation in Asia, but our faith as a nation seems in dire need of strengthening and reassurance. The Singaporeans don't worship a better God but look at them? The Chinese don't even worship one but they've already sent one of their kind to space. I guess what I am saying is, we have to give 100% of our faith to whatever we believe in. There shouldn't be any doubt that God exists.

Having said all these I think my problem is, I am comparing the Phils. with the US and other completely different governments, which to me is somewhat illogical, because the comparison ends right when it starts. :lol:

Anyway, I hope you all have a great day :) And welcome to INOL EkeWaka :wink:

[Alistair]

Once in a great while it's so refreshing to read a really good post.
Thanks EkeWaka for reminding us these things. And don't mind Greggy, he's just having some really bad hang-overs from watching "Passion Of The Christ" :)

By the way, is that an Aloha name you got? :)

[BeefPapaitan]

Sana naman matuloy na yung sa Honda. Pero sana someone can take my suggestion seriously. Invite big business magnates to Laoag! :)

[Greggy]

Once in a great while it's so refreshing to read a really good post.
Thanks EkeWaka for reminding us these things. And don't mind Greggy, he's just having some really bad hang-overs from watching "Passion Of The Christ" :)

By the way, is that an Aloha name you got? :)

Just my 2 cents.
An I haven't seen the movie - I might :)

One more thing, you mean Hawaiian name, not Aloha name :lol:

[EkeWaka]

I love it!!! We are separated by miles, but our hearts beat the same, our thoughts have the same values. our zest for life knows no boundary. AND BY THE WAY, MY FAVORITE FAVORITE FOOD IS "DINUGUAN" In Hawaii, we say, Some Ono" You are my brothers and sisters and I feel this connection.... It would be such a blessing to meet you guys... EkeWaka

[BenLopez]

Hmmm... Maybe you mean "DINARDARAAN" not Dinuguan :)
For me Dinuguan is the Tagalog version of the original Ilocano Dinardaraan. Nothing compares :)

If you ever happen to visit Ilocos Norte we will make sure the hospitality we are known for worldwide will be accorded to you, my friend :)

I'm only speaking for myself and let me just say I am honored to have been considered by someone with great wisdom like you, as brother.

Mabuhay!

[connoiseur]

Anyway ilocos norte online must start adding a feature to accepts donations to certain projects that could accepts credit cards like VISA, MASTER. PAYPAY, Emailed money or PNB Remitance or what so ever.
Mayat daytoy koma nga agpayso apo.
Yes, but it should be tailored in such a way that people, potential donors will have assurance that their donations will be put to good use as intended.
Let's face it, there will always be doubters. There will always be doubts on whether these donations will ever get to its intended recipient.

Find a way to eliminate this and I am willing to put half of my 1-month paycheck to any Piddig civic project.
Why half only :?: :)

[AoteaRoa]

Anyway ilocos norte online must start adding a feature to accepts donations to certain projects that could accepts credit cards like VISA, MASTER. PAYPAY, Emailed money or PNB Remitance or what so ever.
Mayat daytoy koma nga agpayso apo.
Yes, but it should be tailored in such a way that people, potential donors will have assurance that their donations will be put to good use as intended.
Let's face it, there will always be doubters. There will always be doubts on whether these donations will ever get to its intended recipient.

Find a way to eliminate this and I am willing to put half of my 1-month paycheck to any Piddig civic project.
Flush, God said: Lucky are those who saw and believed but the kingdom of God belongs to those who didn't see and yet believed

Reserve your place - seats are being taken like pan cakes :lol:

[mars-cromwell]

LET ILOCOS NORTE FLOURISH!!

LET US MAKE LAOAG CITY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AS AN INTERNATINAL AIRPORT.

TOURISM WILL BE BOASTED. JOBS WILL BE CREATED... NEW BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS WILL BE CREATED...
THE ACCESS TO THE BEAUTIFULL CITY AND PROVINCE IN THE NORTHERN PROVINCES OF THE FAR EAST WILL BE DISCOVEERED BY TRAVELLERS.

LET US BUY LAOAG CITY AIRPORT AND RUN IT IN THE STIOCK MARKET,, AND APPLY FOR A FRANCHISE TO RUN AS AN " INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT".

LET ME KNOW PLEASE IF THERE ARE COMMERCE GRADUATES WHO HAS PLAN TO START A BIG PROJECT TO PRIVATISE THE LAOAG CITY AIRPORT AND THEN WE CAN BUY SHARES AND WITH THOSE SHARES WE CAN RAISE MONEY TO RUN THE "INTERNATIONAL " AIRPORT.

POLITICIANS SHOULD PUT A BILL IN THE CONGRESS TO MAKE LAOAG CITY STAND FOR ITS NAME AS TJHE INTERNATIONAL CITY OF THE NORTHERN PROVINCES OF THE FAR EAST.

............ILOCOS NORTE... LET US UNITE.... NO LAOAGAENEOUS, OR ANY OTHER TOWN IDENTITY,, LET US OALL BE ILOCANOS AND UNITE TO MAKE THE ILOCOS NORTE A GREAT PROVINCE.....S.M.C.

[[Unknown]]

I just don't know, for me project like government supposed to take care would not ineterest me much. What is DECS doing there? I know that there are projects that are reportedly done but was not even started, and the money was diverted to anything else until it was none.

Anyway ilocos norte online must start adding a feature to accepts donations to certain projects that could accepts credit cards like VISA, MASTER. PAYPAY, Emailed money or PNB Remitance or what so ever.
We are working on this feature.
In the coming days, we will be adding a side-block in index page that will let anyone make a donation to a certain ilocos project of his/her own choice, using a credit card.

Donations will be logged and all donors' names (with the corresponding amount donated) will be published online unless he/she specifically requests otherwise. This will ensure all donations will be accounted for and create a sense of transpareny.

We will make sure that money collected will be put to use as intended. If you have any idea on how we can accomplish this, please feel free to post here.

Any specific project you have in mind to start with Joshraven?

Mars-Cromwell, tell us how do we go about realizing your idea?

[mars-cromwell]

people of ilocos norte should sign a petition to the congressman that they want the LAOAG CITY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT open to all countries. Money is a problem as usual... PUT A PRICE IN THE SOCK MARKET,,, OTHERS WILL BE INVITED BY POSSIBLE SHAREHOLDERS TO BUY STOCKS,.. NO DONATIONS... BUT SHARES LIKE 100 PESON PER SHARE ETC, THEN MAYBE THE MORE SHARES WE BUY THE MORE MONEY CAN BE RAISED TO FINANNCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AIRPORT. SHARES MUST BE LIMITED LIKE 200 SHARES ONLY FOR ONE PERSON.. THIS WILL LIMIT THE POLITICIANS PUT THEIR HANDS INTO IT AND MONOPOLISE THE 'AIRPORT'. DIVIDENDS WILL BE GIVEN TO THE SHARE HOLDERS AT THE END OF THE YEAR... PROFIT DIVIDED AMONG NUMBER OF SHARES PER INVESTORS THEN THAT IS YOUR 'PROFIT' THE MONEY INVESTED IS INTACK, WHEN AT THE END OF THE EXPECTANCY OF A SHARE HOLDER COMES ,I.E. HE NEEDS MONEY HE CAN SELL HIS SHARE TO THE PRESENT VALUE OF THE SHARE AND THAT IS . PRESENT VALUE MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER OF SHARES THERE YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK....SHARES CAN GO UP AND DOWN,, SO WARNING,,, SELL YOUR SHARE ONLY WHEN THE STOCKMARKET IS HIGH..


FOREIGN INVESTORS MUST BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE FOR A LIMITED NUMBER OF SHARES...

SEARCH THE STOCK MARKET, GET INFORMATION. BUT FIRST INFORM THE CONGRESSMAN THAT WE WANT LAOG TO BE PRIVATISED AND WE WANT THAT IT IS TO BE OPEN TO INTERNATIONAL ZONES .,,,HARD JOB BUT IT IS VIABLE.

THERE MUST BE COMMERCE GRADUATES IN THE PHILIPPINES WILLING TO GOUP OIN THE STOCKMARKET LADDER. I CNNOT DO IT FOR I DO NOT LIVE IN THE OPHILIPPINES... I AM CATEGORISED AS FOREIGN INVESTOR,,, SO PLEASE,, PEOPLE, KAILIAN NGA I;LOKANO... PRIVATISE LAOAG CITY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT [SUBMITTED NOT SPELL CHECKED,,,SORRY]

[Greggy]

people of ilocos norte should sign a petition to the congressman that they want the LAOAG CITY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT open to all countries. Money is a problem as usual... PUT A PRICE IN THE SOCK MARKET,,, OTHERS WILL BE INVITED BY POSSIBLE SHAREHOLDERS TO BUY STOCKS,.. NO DONATIONS... BUT SHARES LIKE 100 PESON PER SHARE ETC, THEN MAYBE THE MORE SHARES WE BUY THE MORE MONEY CAN BE RAISED TO FINANNCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AIRPORT. SHARES MUST BE LIMITED LIKE 200 SHARES ONLY FOR ONE PERSON.. THIS WILL LIMIT THE POLITICIANS PUT THEIR HANDS INTO IT AND MONOPOLISE THE 'AIRPORT'. DIVIDENDS WILL BE GIVEN TO THE SHARE HOLDERS AT THE END OF THE YEAR... PROFIT DIVIDED AMONG NUMBER OF SHARES PER INVESTORS THEN THAT IS YOUR 'PROFIT' THE MONEY INVESTED IS INTACK, WHEN AT THE END OF THE EXPECTANCY OF A SHARE HOLDER COMES ,I.E. HE NEEDS MONEY HE CAN SELL HIS SHARE TO THE PRESENT VALUE OF THE SHARE AND THAT IS . PRESENT VALUE MULTIPLIED BY THE NUMBER OF SHARES THERE YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK....SHARES CAN GO UP AND DOWN,, SO WARNING,,, SELL YOUR SHARE ONLY WHEN THE STOCKMARKET IS HIGH..


FOREIGN INVESTORS MUST BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE FOR A LIMITED NUMBER OF SHARES...

SEARCH THE STOCK MARKET, GET INFORMATION. BUT FIRST INFORM THE CONGRESSMAN THAT WE WANT LAOG TO BE PRIVATISED AND WE WANT THAT IT IS TO BE OPEN TO INTERNATIONAL ZONES .,,,HARD JOB BUT IT IS VIABLE.

THERE MUST BE COMMERCE GRADUATES IN THE PHILIPPINES WILLING TO GOUP OIN THE STOCKMARKET LADDER. I CNNOT DO IT FOR I DO NOT LIVE IN THE OPHILIPPINES... I AM CATEGORISED AS FOREIGN INVESTOR,,, SO PLEASE,, PEOPLE, KAILIAN NGA I;LOKANO... PRIVATISE LAOAG CITY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT [SUBMITTED NOT SPELL CHECKED,,,SORRY]Hmmm...
This, I think is close to impossible. I've never heard of an International airport run by a private individual or company anywhere in the world, unless...
I may not fully comprehend how the corporate world works but imagine the dangers posed by privatising an airport like Laoag:
- terrorist groups around the world will be eyeing stock ownership in LIA

What if Osama bin Laden, through his agent or under a different name purchases a commanding stock ownership in LIA? I tell you Ilocos will be a haven for terrorists sooner than the clock strikes 4 AM.
Planes will be flying off LIA to all major cities in the world, wreaking havoc amongst us.

Just a thought...

[iNvALyd]

Hmmm...
This, I think is close to impossible. I've never heard of an International airport run by a private individual or company anywhere in the world, unless...
I may not fully comprehend how the corporate world works but imagine the dangers posed by privatising an airport like Laoag:
- terrorist groups around the world will be eyeing stock ownership in LIA

What if Osama bin Laden, through his agent or under a different name purchases a commanding stock ownership in LIA? I tell you Ilocos will be a haven for terrorists sooner than the clock strikes 4 AM.
Planes will be flying off LIA to all major cities in the world, wreaking havoc amongst us.

Just a thought... It's possible.
But that is why stock ownership should be limited to a certain degree to avoid monopoly, right? :lol:

[JOSHRAVEN]

Airport are usually run by its goverment because it is better to do so. If we privatize the airport and put it in stocks, your stock could be disolve in week specially if you dont have millions to invest in it.

The airport get money from the airlines and people who use the airport say our terminal fee, etc. Even if its privatized when airline decided not to land in Laoag Airport then there will be no money from the airport. How many Ilocanos would like to land at the same time in Laoag and how many would like to fly back from manila. With the current rate I would rather use deluxe coach in Farinas or Maria De leon trans.

Our kababayan from abroad would not even want to come back here why? Because our goverment is not so stable and not safe to be in.

[BB-M]

Unless we try it, we never know... :)
History tells us that in some cases, privatization works better for some industries. Who knows, airport industry is one of those - but don't count on it :lol:

[BenLopez]

Sige ngaruden!
Mangaramid kayon iti petisyon ta ag-sign nakon! :lol:

[JOSHRAVEN]

Privatization would jackup prices and the government doesnt have control with it. Yes we should learn from history and yesterdays.

Remember MWSS, when it was newly privatized the services is good and price is low, now the price is so high, and so buying water in a bottle flourish.

I dont know, you people want privatization but do not see the consequences of doing so. Someday even the Laoag bridges will be sold and you pay 5pesos everytime you pass.

You are talking monopoly, but you are trying to break that monopoly with another monopoly by private individual. Why not build another airport in the calayab to break that monopoly we are talking.

Vote LACSON for President!!! :)

[FlushedMX]

Between FPJ and Lacson, I would pick Lacson but with Gloria in the scene, I'd vote for her. Nevertheless, I can still feel that she'll be out of job come June :)

Build another airport? :lol:

[Roldan]

Hi joshraven,

Haan nga monopoly ta adu met no kua iti shareholders di ngata? Nu gumatang ka ti "share" mo, gumatangak met ken gumatang met dagitay dadduma di adu tayo nga makinkukua no kua :)

Ket gapu ta adda limit ti magatang ti maysa nga tao nga share, ma-preventaran ti monopoly nga kunam ta uray man adu ti kuwarta da Ablan, Farinas, Marcos malimitaran ti shares da di kad haan da nga ma-monopolize dayta airport.

Kasta ti panagawat ko dayta proposisyon ni mars-cromwell :)

[dynamiclinklibrary]

Ti makitak ketdi ket ni Lacson ti "Dark Horse".

Ni Rocco "masikog" met ngamin :)
Baka nu di pay nadanon ti election ket "aganaken" :lol:

[BeefPapaitan]

Build another airport? :lol:

For what? :?:

[IronMaiden]

I think the problem is within the provincial government – that includes Congressman Ablan.

They should be the first ones to lobby for the upgrading of LIA to Int'l. status but what are they doing?

[Greggy]

You cannot monopolize a publicly-traded company.

Well, that's what I think :lol:

[connoiseur]

LIA to be publicly-traded? In the Makati Stock Exchange? Wow!

Notify me when it's available please :)

[Roldan]

Hahaha, ipan da koma pay yanta Dow Jones :lol:

[Maharlika]

I think the problem is within the provincial government ? that includes Congressman Ablan.

They should be the first ones to lobby for the upgrading of LIA to Int'l. status but what are they doing?
What are they doing?
Nothing.... obviously :lol:

[BB-M]

Nakurang ti panangipursigi da iti panamagbalin ti LIA nga "true-International" airport.
Kasla adda iti nabasak idi nga complain ni Dr. Bueno nga haan kanu pay agandar dagitay AC units da dita waiting area na? Di pay nagpudot met?

[mars-cromwell]

we say tourism oriented is the best business to do in ilocos norte??? how, first we need to think how tourist reaches the Ilocos Provinces easily.
An International Airport, perhaphs, say a Buy to Let Airport, we invest money in upgrading the Airport. The profit be shared amongst investors, then a good airport support tourism, how can we view the beautiful places if there are no immidiate access to the beautiful spot...

Time to start a new trend, let the politician be awakened, it is election time, the Laoag International Airport bust stand on to its name.

People of the Phillippines must Lobby Congress and pass a bill to improve the Airport. Manila is very pover crowded. I like to reach Laoag direct from where I will come from. I once travel from Manila to Laoag via the Gabu Airport in for godness sake in 45 minutes I was already in Baclaran, Manila, compared to the 12 hours trael...s.m.c

Freedom is not dependent on what somebody else thinks; it comes from who you are from deep inside yourself.

Freedom to travel in the Laoag International Airport...

[mars-cromwell]

readers, sorry if the messages are not spell checked... i just mean to voice my opinion in the best i can , my browser has no dictionary..anyway, not alll english language spelt the same.

[ROXYBLUE]

I remember, back in '95, there used to be a direct flight from Laoag to Honolulu & vice-versa as well as Laoag to LA.
Whatever happened to it?

[ROXYBLUE]

I know that because one timne we didn't have to go all the way to Manila to fetch our relatives who were coming from the Mainland and when they went back they boarded in Laoag.

They said it was very convenient.

[BB-M]

Convenient - I can see that.
They should revive it. What does it take to revive it?

[Onimusha]

That was Philippine Airlines.
From what I heard PAL doesn't land in Laoag anymore.

Let's talk to Tan so he can spare some planes to Laoag - and that my friend, is what it takes to bring it back.

Unless Paul Ng has what it takes. I doubt it :x

[Gari]

Aside from Air Philippines and Asian Spirit that service the domestic route.Philippine Airlines will soon land again in LIA four times a week-slated to start on April 1, 200.Plans are underway to reopen the Laoag-Honolulu direct flight.

About the development of LIA.A 10 storey,modern, state of the art CONTROL TOWER has been erected and new navigational equipment(DVOR and DME) has been installed.

[BB-M]

Thanks Gari for this info.

This is surely a good news to all Ilocanos living abroad. Going home to Ilocos will be very convenient - minus the hassles of the ever-worsening Manila traffic :lol:

It's good to know someone's working with PAL to bring it back to Laoag.

[E-Heads]

I just hpoe this is for good.
Amangan nu tunno malapas ti lenten season ket ikkaten dan to manen. "Seasonal" :x

[Roldan]

Seasonal flights. Sada laeng ag-pa Laoag nu adu ti Ilocano nga agbabakasyon?
Haan ngata met?

[Ayyong]

Adda koma pay trip from mainland a?

[gr8-one]

Daydi Laoag-Honolulu "direct" flight nga kuna da ket haan nga talaga nga direct ta dumagas da pay idiay Manila. Kalpasan na aglugan danto manen iti sabali nga eroplano nga agpa-Honolulu'n.

Stopover took about 1/2 to 1 hr. More convenient met laeng nga talaga ta awanen diay hassles ti panagbiyahe ti bus (8-10 hours).

Just to let you know how that "direct-flight" was.
Now, will this "direct-flight" they're cooking be a "real", direct one? Remains to be seen. :)

[Kilroy]

What's c-o-o-king? :lol:

[Anakin Skywalker]

Do you smell what "The Rock" is c-o-o-k-i-n-g? :lol:

[TCardona]

Daydi Laoag-Honolulu "direct" flight nga kuna da ket haan nga talaga nga direct ta dumagas da pay idiay Manila. Kalpasan na aglugan danto manen iti sabali nga eroplano nga agpa-Honolulu'n.

Stopover took about 1/2 to 1 hr. More convenient met laeng nga talaga ta awanen diay hassles ti panagbiyahe ti bus (8-10 hours).

Just to let you know how that "direct-flight" was.
Now, will this "direct-flight" they're co- - -ng be a "real", direct one? Remains to be seen. :)
Mayat. Nanam-ay ti agbiahe nu kuan.
Ngem amangan ta napintas met ti plete nu kua?

[BB-M]

Makapag-landing kadi ngata ti 747 dita LIA?
Amangan nu dagitay met 50-seaters nga PAL ti i-biyahe da dita?

[mars-cromwell]

Naimbag nga horas yo amin Apo nga Ka-ilian,

boing 747 can land in LIA, this was done on a test run way back the time of the late President Ferdinand Marcos.When he wass ousted, people probably did not want him to leave the Philippines and then then put calming blocks, on the run way, thus forbidding the take off or landong of a 747.

We should not really question much on the possibility of landing and not , we should push forward that the government should opt for International Direct Flights .

Well for a little progress there is always an equivalent cost, fares will be high but not as high when 10 people comes to meet you in Manila when you go Balik=bayan.

The Laoag International aorport when I was in Gabu, I saw the massive land area. It can take 10 747 landing every hour.

By the way... lets stop too mucj politics let the people decide on the improvement of Laoag Alternaye International Airport.

Hello to all...smc :!:

[ROXYBLUE]

I remember this story - but differently.
They said they put those barriers to prevent big planes from landing :)

It's been a while, not so sure anymore.

[mars-cromwell]

ka-ilian, then it is true, putting big barriers to prevent big planes [ like Boiein g 747] landing is an answer that big planes can land.. now help.... let us or someone in Laoag to start a petition to ask the Govenrment to open Laoag City International Aleternate Airport fly direct to Europe, USA mainland, what glowry will it be for the perlas ng silangan air travel.

smc

[Greggy]

I remember this story - but differently.
They said they put those barriers to prevent big planes from landing :)

It's been a while, not so sure anymore.
Reason being the "people in power" didn't want a surprise visit from Macoy who was in exile in Hawaii :)

[Greggy]

ka-ilian, then it is true, putting big barriers to prevent big planes [ like Boiein g 747] landing is an answer that big planes can land.. now help.... let us or someone in Laoag to start a petition to ask the Govenrment to open Laoag City International Aleternate Airport fly direct to Europe, USA mainland, what glowry will it be for the perlas ng silangan air travel.

smc
I think the problem there is that, the airport itself (buildings, runways, control tower, etc) is sub-standard.
The gov't. ought to remodel, refurbish, upgrade these to meet certain standards. Our provincial/city government officials should act as lobbyists for the realization of this.

[Roldan]

Let's face it.
LIA is the "real gateway to Ilocandia" so it makes sense to develop it.
It's good that we argue about these things but if our politicos can't read our discussions, we're just like wishing upon a star. Somehow, somebody's got to do something to let them know what the people want.

[Trinity]

Aside from Air Philippines and Asian Spirit that service the domestic route.Philippine Airlines will soon land again in LIA four times a week-slated to start on April 1, 200.Plans are underway to reopen the Laoag-Honolulu direct flight.

About the development of LIA.A 10 storey,modern, state of the art CONTROL TOWER has been erected and new navigational equipment(DVOR and DME) has been installed.
I am sure that a lot of our kailians in Hawaii and California are looking forward to this. This will definitely boost tourism in Laoag and Ilocos Norte.
I just hope this will be for good.

[dynamiclinklibrary]

I think the problem there is that, the airport itself (buildings, runways, control tower, etc) is sub-standard.
The gov't. ought to remodel, refurbish, upgrade these to meet certain standards. Our provincial/city government officials should act as lobbyists for the realization of this.
I think it was Dr. Purisima Bueno who complained about the sub-standard condition of the LIA facilities. I wonder what she's doing about it...

[FlushedMX]

she's making money.... prescribing medicine! hahaha!!! joke laeng apo doctora...

[Greggy]

I heard that sometime next month, May, they will start with the construction of the LIA runway extension as well as renovation of the airport building.
See? Our discussion about this didn't actually fall on deaf ears :lol:

[Ayyong]

Kumusta kayon kakabsat, ala naimbag nu makapag-landing tayon ton idiay Laoag manipud iti US. Dakkel nga nam-ay ti maipa-ay na kadagiti aggapu iti US kasta metten iti turismo ti probinsiya tayo.

[BB-M]

I heard that sometime next month, May, they will start with the construction of the LIA runway extension as well as renovation of the airport building.
See? Our discussion about this didn't actually fall on deaf ears :lol:
That's good news :wink:
It's about time.

[CLONED]

Anya pay ngamin serbi na met nga International Airport nu haan met nga ag-landing ti PAL - ti mismo nga flag carrier ti Pilipinas.

[FlushedMX]

Nu siak ti adda dita abroad, and I'm making a lot of dollars, ay ket mang-open ak iti "Flushed Foundation" nga mang-scholar kadagiti nasaririt nga estudyante iti probinsiya tayo.
Ummm, inikkan kayon iti idea dakayo appo nga adda dita abroad nga agak-akup iti dolyares :lol:

[japa]

YOU KNOW FLUSHED I HATE TO DIS-AGDREE TO YOU BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PICKING-UP DOLLARS HERE BUT YOU NEED TO WORK HARD SO THAT YOU GET COMPENSATED FOR YOUR DOLLAR.YEAH WE CAN CONTRIBUTE SOME X-AMOUNT FOR THE NECESITY FOR THE PEOPLE SPECIALLY IN THE REMOTE AREA WHEN THE TIME COMES.

[Trinity]

Even if you're in the states if you don't work - a lazy bastard, you're not going anywhere. Gotta work.

[JOSHRAVEN]

When I arrived here in Canada, maka ibitak pay nga makakita kadagitay kaiillian tayo nga naka pila iti atiddog ayat da la mga makatrabaho. Ta isuda, abogado kada engineer tayo dita idi nga iresrespeto. Nu inka agpaspasiar iti dominggo wenno sabado ket makitam nga pilipino dagitay para sakad ken para dalus ta mall, malagip ko dagitay kaillian dita nga agtutungtung nga agmal-malem, agur-uray ti maluto a kanen. Ngem ditoy awan ta nu maminsan awan pay oras ti pinagrelax nga agtugtugaw kuma nga agpalpalabas ti lugan. Nu adda chance mo FlushMX, padasen ti umay ditoy ta padasem met ti agpidut ti rugit uray agis-isnow. Narigat pay a binting ti mapidut mo ditoy.

[Greggy]

Anya makunam Flushed? :)
Ti lang mainayon ko ket kastoy:
Nu tutuusen, nanam-nam-ay ti biag dita Pilipinas ta adda pay tiempo ti panagtutung-tong ditoy dimo pay ammo ti kudkudemon :)

[FlushedMX]

O.k.
Saludsudek man ngarud kadakayu apo (japa, Josh, Greggy ken kadakayu aminen nga adda dita abroad):
Nu talaga nga napinpintas ditoy Pilipinas nga kunayo, apay ngarud nga kaaduan na kanya yu ket kaykayat na ti agnaed dita agdama nga ayan yu?
Apay ngarud nga dikay agawid?
:lol: saludsod lang wen? hehehe...

[JOSHRAVEN]

Nu maminsan dita kuntento tayon nga mangan iti tallo nga aldaw, adda la ketdi mangipadigo ti sinanglaw wenno adda makuremes nga itlog ta baki. Ngem nu panunutem ti masakbayan ta pamilyam ala ket saan a dakes ti agananus ditoy. Ngem nu ti kunam nga agpidpidut ti kuarta ditoy saan. Ti la pagsayaatan na ditoy di na ka baybay-an ti gobyerno ditoy.

Napintas kunami ta adda oras yo nga agaramid ti kaykayat yo. Ditoy nu dika agkuti awan mangyari ti biag mo a. Patiem wenno saan ngem adu latta pilipino ditoy nga binalonna ti kinalaglagna ditoy.

Idi umayak ditoy adu ti nagastok ket diak pay nabayadan amin nga utang ko. Isu nga agawidak to nu makabayadak ti nagastok. Maysa pay ngata nga tawen nga iurnungan ken makatawen nga inurnungan tay pagplete nga agawid. Hehehe...

[gr8-one]

Flushed, husto diay kuna ni Joshraven.
Para kanyak lang nga maysa, sacripisyo daytoy ar-aramiden mi ditoy.

[Greggy]

Husto amin nga imbaga ni Joshraven Flushed, aglalo daytoy:
Patiem wenno saan ngem adu latta pilipino ditoy nga binalonna ti kinalaglagna ditoy.

[FlushedMX]

Ala, haan dak kadi nga babbabalawenen gagayyem - despensaren dak koma laengen nu nasair ko ti rikna yo.

Adda ngamin dagitay dadduma nga nu agbakasyon da kanu ket kasla isu da ti kabaknangan (kanu kunak a ta isu met ibaga da). Awan met ketdi ti biang ko ngem ibagak lang met ti mang-mangeg ko :lol:

Ala nasayaat met ta nalaw-lawagan ti panagipapan ti kaaduan/wenno dadduma.

Ne sige ket innak man kitaen diay panagbilang da iti botos :)

[gr8-one]

No problemo, FlushedMX!
Paka-ammuan na kamin to ngarud nu assino ti mangabak kadagiti kakandidatos.

[Trinity]

Napintas ti adda iti U.S. Flushed nu nagaget ka ngem nu sadut ti maysa nga tao arig na met lang tay sadut nga adda dita Pilipinas.

[FlushedMX]

Well taken, Trinity.
Thanks! :wink:

[Myrna]

I am married to an american , and loves to live in Ilocos Norte when we retire, and we are planning to set up a business there, but we still don't know what type...we also want to buy things from there and send them here in America and sell it..americans are so much fascinated with everything oriental.

[JOSHRAVEN]

I think what you love most would be the best business that you will put up in Ilocos.

There are alot of business upportunity in Ilocos if you have a lot of money to invest. Daytay man kuma export nga kunam, ammok nga adu ti kawayan nga producto dita nga kayat dagiti americano dayta ti export yo. Bugguong pay kuma. hehehe

[Myrna]

Tnx Joshraven..good suggestion, and I think that's what we will do...

[LastUnicorn]

Good Morning everyone.. I know thisquestion isn't exactly on this topic..but I need to know if anyone knows of a good Bank that I can get an account at to start preping for my moving over there. I want with this account to be able to transfer from my accounts here to there and be able to check my balence.
Thanks for any information,
Paul (LastUnicorn)

[BB-M]

Try PNB - Philippine National Bank.

[Nide]

hi i am planning to set up an internet cafe in laoag or bacarra. Every process is still being planned though,hopefully i will be able to finally finalize it before 2006 :) If u guys have any thought of what business is very much demanded in Ilocos Norte please reply or contact me at rbdomingcil@hotmail.com. We were also thinking of a Video Game shop but unaware of how well is gaming in the province.

[Lord_Yoda]

I-cafe with a "twist" ti pumayam Nide.
Adu met ket ti pag-internetan ditoy ngem nu naidum-duma deta I-cafe'm, daywen da.

Ikkam ti flat screens, ken wen, mayat nu pag-combinem ti I-cafe ken tay pagay-ayaman.

[Nide]

thats agood idea lord_yoda,maybe an I-cafe and an arcade together,or with a coffe/sandwich shop, so students can go do homeworks or just hang-out during their free time.

Nice job!! and Thx!! :D **

[BB-M]

Inayon mo pay ti Karaoke bar, Nide.
Ken ikkam tay section na nga "Nude Karaoke Bar" :lol:

Dudumugin yung I-Cafe mo pustahan tayo.

[xdh606]

Hope it may help to generate jobs for all of us.

Just wanna invite everybody to try.

Its a global business, which maybe some of your folks outside the country will want the product!

Visit my site............ CLICK HERE (http://myresensa.tripod.com)

You can do it in part time basis! with a minimal investment.

Thanks a lot!

[BB-M]

Anya kad diperensiya tay Green Tea kadetay regular nga tea?

[LastUnicorn]

As far as tourism I think this site is doing wonders as far as spreading the word that most of the Phil. is a slice of heaven..And a gife from above.

[zachzech]

you are right last unicorn i think this site or any site on internet about ilocos is a very effective advertisement...

BB-M adu ti klase ti tea..tay green tea ti japan ket isu ti danum da..sabali a bulong ti usarenda.ada pay tay mugi cha a kuna da a made from wheat.

[BeefPapaitan]

Maybe add picz dito sa site. Add a short profile in each town.

[daguerrson]

We are indeed helping our own province of Ilocos Norte in this site by forming strong opinions on how the province can be improved. We have expressed our views about our farm products, our domestic industries, about tourism, about the hospitality and culture of our people, about endless possibilities of adventure there; just to bolster awareness to the world that there is indeed such a beautiful place as Ilocos Norte by the sea and is cradled by the mountains on the east.

[zachzech]

ne apo daguer mayat man dagita saritam a aglaman iti uneg ti maysa a tourism pamphlet hhehee

[daguerrson]

ne apo daguer mayat man dagita saritam a aglaman iti uneg ti maysa a tourism pamphlet hhehee

Thanx Zachzech. Inspiradoak ngamin basta probinsiya tayo ti pagsasaritaan, He he he :lol: :lol:

[Myrna]

I agree with Last_unicorn and Daguerrson.....and ading Zachzech....with just this site...the world is already looking at Ilocos Norte...and as Beef said.... maybe some pictures of each town too......

[BeefPapaitan]

Ito pa, suggestion, why not ask froreign companies to conduct field tri[s at IN and make their smaller planes land in IN. Kinukumpetensya tayo ng DMIA. We must kick DMIA's butt!

[daguerrson]

Ito pa, suggestion, why not ask froreign companies to conduct field tri[s at IN and make their smaller planes land in IN. Kinukumpetensya tayo ng DMIA. We must kick DMIA's butt!

Beef, that's a good suggestion. But we can do that only if a good reason or a favorable business climate is created first for them to go there. Otherwise, we cannot convince anyone to come to Ilocos Norte.

First, there must be some good incentives given to foreign companies such as a provincial and municipal tax breaks for them in their first ten or twenty years of business operation in the locality. Second, peace and security for the companies must be assured by the local government.

The list can go on just to make it very attractive for foreign inverstors to put up their businesses in Ilocos Norte.

On the other hand, these incentives should not compromise and disenfranchise the already existing means of livelihood that the local population have. Furthermore, these incentives must not in any way put the health and lives of the population in jeopardy. I have observed that these safety measures are often neglected by both sides in the agreement and eventually lead to disasters. We should not allow these disasters to happen to Ilocos Norte.

[BeefPapaitan]

I don't have much idea about doing businesses in IN, or maybe my research is only a minute one. But providing those incentives and security protection must be the job of IN LGU. Meeting must be also conducted with local businesses the moment that foreign businesses start pouring in.

[amoure]

guys, nice suggestions. you all have bright ideas. however, do not forget that we have what we call the Regional Development Plan of Ilocos Norte which is usually done by the Provincial Planning and Development Coordinator with the technical assistance from the National Economic and Development Authority -Region 1. idtoy tayo a makita nu anya ti vision ti ilocos norte as well as the goals and thrusts in order to attain such vision. isu a mayat a adalen detoy a plan para maamuan nu anya ti potentials ti ilocos kasta met ti direction na. from there, we can suggest nu anya ti nasayaat a maitulong ti ilocos norte para iti panagdur-as na. it would be better na we support what is in the Plan tapno met saan lang ag end a PLANUNOT ti Development Plan. the government can not do alone its job. kasapulan ti panagmaymaysa ti private sector, the public, the academe, etc. tapno ma implement what is in the plan.

in as far as putting up a business is concerned, it is very important to conduct a feasibility studies to know whether or not such business is viable or profitable. narigat ti ag put up ti business nga d ammo ti business climate ta lugar mo such as the demand and supply of a certain product or service.

i dont know kung relevant po itong suggestions ko the the real intent of this forum. but i hope you find it informative. thanks a lot. :D

[Myrna]

well said amoure....

[amoure]

well said amoure....

hi myrna, thanks!!

[zachzech]

tama si m amoure. pagtrabtrabahuam a agency manang? errr manang kadi ngata?

[daguerrson]

guys, nice suggestions. you all have bright ideas. however, do not forget that we have what we call the Regional Development Plan of Ilocos Norte which is usually done by the Provincial Planning and Development Coordinator with the technical assistance from the National Economic and Development Authority -Region 1. idtoy tayo a makita nu anya ti vision ti ilocos norte as well as the goals and thrusts in order to attain such vision. isu a mayat a adalen detoy a plan para maamuan nu anya ti potentials ti ilocos kasta met ti direction na. from there, we can suggest nu anya ti nasayaat a maitulong ti ilocos norte para iti panagdur-as na. it would be better na we support what is in the Plan tapno met saan lang ag end a PLANUNOT ti Development Plan. the government can not do alone its job. kasapulan ti panagmaymaysa ti private sector, the public, the academe, etc. tapno ma implement what is in the plan.

in as far as putting up a business is concerned, it is very important to conduct a feasibility studies to know whether or not such business is viable or profitable. narigat ti ag put up ti business nga d ammo ti business climate ta lugar mo such as the demand and supply of a certain product or service.

i dont know kung relevant po itong suggestions ko the the real intent of this forum. but i hope you find it informative. thanks a lot. :D

Very relevant and very informative indeed, Amoure. Thanks a lot.

In my case, I am completely out of touch with what government agency is in place for regional development in Ilocos Norte.

What is happening now with American businesses is they are getting out of the US to escape from the grip of labor unions, high labor costs, high taxes, restrictive government control and growing concerns from activist groups over environmental safety.

These businesses have sought sanctuary in the third world countries such as Mexico, Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, Pakistan, India and the latest and most attractive now is the mainland China. Most of their products come back to the US and these are cars, clothing, electronics, home appliances, building materials, tools, furniture, bicycles, batteries and other electrical products, and many more. So it is not merely for local consumption since the greater chunk of these products are for export. That is the perspective that I had in mind when I made my previous posting.

Why haven't these companies come to the Philippines? This is a very intriguing question that needs to be addressed by the Philippine government. Isn't it very obvious that they are steering away from our country? What's wrong?

The answer is, rampant graft and corruption that pervades in high places in the government, which is definitely not conducive to entrepreneural ventures. The government needs some housecleaning and cosmetique upkeep first before it can lure foreign companies into the country.

[BB-M]

Hello Inolers!!!
Sorry tatta ak lang manen :cry:

I fell victim to spyware and being the "un-geek" that I am, I had to use my PC's recovery disk (I don't know how to else I could fix the problem) and re-install all programs I had. :(

Anyway, I'm back......

So where were we???? :lol:

[BB-M]

I heard something about Northern Luzon Growth Quadrangle which includes development plans for Laoag City and Ilocos Norte. Whatever happened to this?

[SuperGlow]

Hello Inolers!!!
Sorry tatta ak lang manen :cry:

I fell victim to spyware and being the "un-geek" that I am, I had to use my PC's recovery disk (I don't know how to else I could fix the problem) and re-install all programs I had. :(

Anyway, I'm back......

So where were we???? :lol:


Welcome back BBM :wink:

[MHTS]

Hello Inolers!!!
Sorry tatta ak lang manen :cry:

I fell victim to spyware and being the "un-geek" that I am, I had to use my PC's recovery disk (I don't know how to else I could fix the problem) and re-install all programs I had. :(

Anyway, I'm back......

So where were we???? :lol:

Apo BB-M, ti ammok man lang no nagbakasyon kay diay Down Unda! Welcome back ngarud... medyo miss dakayo ti INOLersen...

Sorry to hear about your pc issue... you know... i am just an email away... :wink:

[daguerrson]

I heard something about Northern Luzon Growth Quadrangle which includes development plans for Laoag City and Ilocos Norte. Whatever happened to this?

Amoure, please enlighten us on this question of BB-M. I'm all ears :!:

[BeefPapaitan]

I heard something about Northern Luzon Growth Quadrangle which includes development plans for Laoag City and Ilocos Norte. Whatever happened to this?

Under the Gloria regime? Hanggang papel lang yan!

[BB-M]

I wish MHTS.
Ay apo, nagrigat gayam nu haan ka maka-INOL (internet)? Alusi-isen ka sika?

Nyweyz, tenks por d welkam bak. Good times are here again hehehe.

[Myrna]

hello Bbm...welcome back! we missed u ....

[BB-M]

Thanks, Myrna!

[Myrna]

you are welcome Bbm...nice to have you back!

[BeefPapaitan]

I wish MHTS.
Ay apo, nagrigat gayam nu haan ka maka-INOL (internet)? Alusi-isen ka sika?

Nyweyz, tenks por d welkam bak. Good times are here again hehehe.

Hahaha! What happened, BB-M?!!

[amoure]

nice to hear that i have steered a discussion here. so first things first . . .

ON DAGUERRSON'S POST : first world countries opt to etablish their businesses in third world countries mainly because of cheaper labor and cheaper raw materials. another thing is third world countries have very rich natural resources but they do not have the capability to explore it. so what is happening is that, developed countries go to these underdeveloped countries to take advantage of their vast resources and exploit them.

i agree with daguerrson about higher cost of production in these first world countries. with high cost of production to include land, labor, capital and entrepreneurial abilities, producers of developed countries can not realize higher rates of return. so they go to underdeveloped countries where everything is cheap. it is true that what they produce in these third world countries are not for local consumption but for exports. what is left in the host country are those so-called ?overruns?.

here in Baguio, we have stores for overruns where they sell Gap, Osh Kosh, etc. these garments are a lot cheaper compared when it is first exported to the mother country, changed the label and is imported back to the host country. what an irony, di ba?

a case in point : we have in the Philippines various export processing zones such as those involved in producing garments, footwears, bags, etc. These locators (multi-national companies based in export processing zones) export these products abroad or to their mother country. then it will go back to Philippines as import with the tatak na made in USA, which of course a lot very expensive, when in truth and in fact, was made in the Philippines, used our resources and labor.

in a way, export processing zones help our economy because the bulk of our exports come from these locators. we see them as investors. we see them drivers of our economy. Example, we have the Baguio Export Processing Zone where it houses Texas Instrument, Moog, Adriste, Baysports, Dae-gu, etc. of the total exports in the Cordilleras, 99 percent comes from these locators, and the remaining 1 percent comes from local exporters.

[amoure]

ON BB-M's POST : the NorthQuad was created during the time of Ramos by virtue of EO 175 where development efforts in the Northwestern part of Luzon be coordinated. This was later on named to North Luzon Growth Area by virtue of EO 114 because it included Cagayan Valley and the Cordillera Administrative Region. To intensify these efforts, GMA issued a new Executive Order 239 renaming the NLGA to North Luzon Growth Quadrangle Area (NLGQA) to synchronize the development efforts and maximize the socioeconomic benefits for the population.

As reported by the Manila Bulletin Online : the NLGQA is ?in recognition of the effectiveness of the ?integrated? development approach in attracting local and foreign investments. By conducting a ?multihub? instead of a ?piece-meal? approach to investment promotion, the area has been marketed to investors as an attractive investment and tourist destination that can offer a larger resource base.? (Manila Bulletin Online)

As of the moment, I am not sure if the office of the NLGQA which is based in San Fernando, La Union is still in operation. if you want to know more about it, i would be very delighted to ask the person in charge in our office. the first person i asked kasi is not aware. and the person in charge is not around. :(

[zachzech]

welcome back apo bb-M! ay apo manang amoure agurayka biit ket nabayag a panawenen a hanak nakabasa ti kasta kaatiddog na a english hehehe malaman pa..

[zachzech]

if i remember right we once did a project research (environmental) for the north quad. basta kanyak uray awan mangngeg ko about them as long as they are working umanayen.

[BeefPapaitan]

ON BB-M's POST : the NorthQuad was created during the time of Ramos by virtue of EO 175 where development efforts in the Northwestern part of Luzon be coordinated. This was later on named to North Luzon Growth Area by virtue of EO 114 because it included Cagayan Valley and the Cordillera Administrative Region. To intensify these efforts, GMA issued a new Executive Order 239 renaming the NLGA to North Luzon Growth Quadrangle Area (NLGQA) to synchronize the development efforts and maximize the socioeconomic benefits for the population.

As reported by the Manila Bulletin Online : the NLGQA is ?in recognition of the effectiveness of the ?integrated? development approach in attracting local and foreign investments. By conducting a ?multihub? instead of a ?piece-meal? approach to investment promotion, the area has been marketed to investors as an attractive investment and tourist destination that can offer a larger resource base.? (Manila Bulletin Online)

As of the moment, I am not sure if the office of the NLGQA which is based in San Fernando, La Union is still in operation. if you want to know more about it, i would be very delighted to ask the person in charge in our office. the first person i asked kasi is not aware. and the person in charge is not around. :(

NLGQA's location needed to be moved to another place. Mas maganda kung ilipat nila ito sa isang "central place" since kasama pala ang region 2. Laoag or Vogan will suffice. SFLU is very from from Isabela.

[BeefPapaitan]

Under Gloria's administration, merong Presidential Assistant for Northern Luzon, headed by Rene Diaz, then Chavit Singson, gues where this mini-government is located - Clark field Pampanga!!! ironic, isn't it?

[Myrna]

Yup Beef...why at Clark?.....I smell something fishy here....

[BeefPapaitan]

Hometown ni Ate Glo, e. Hehehe.

Office of the Presidential in Northern Luzon, nasa Clark?!! What the ... ?!!

[Myrna]

Beef........what have our fellow Ilocanos doing?.....did anyone objected that?...or they were just saying...yes ma'am...yes ma'am...I can't believe...it's at Clark!...that's no longer a part of Northern Luzon....that's Central!....My...my...my...fellow Ilocanos...please wake up and do something for the sake of Ilocandia!

[BeefPapaitan]

Nakakatawa nga, e, no? kelan kaya naging Northern Luzon ang Clark. Nobody objected, parang walang paki.

Actually, meron din namang nagawang mabuti ang OPANL sa Ilocos. Madalas na meron tourism caravan promoting the whole Northern Luzon. Marami namang sumasali sa caravan kahit paano.

Pero, aside from tourism, mejo wala na kong naririnig mula sa OPANL.

I wonder why's Gloria constantly avoiding Northern Luzon?

[zachzech]

in fairness, there must be a logical reason where offices are where they are. remember, although sometimes, we hate our polilticians, they are not complete idiots. decisions are still made after thorough study albeit some are not good but still, id like to think that of all our politicians and decision makers there are still some who stand out to be as intelligent as what they claim to be.

I think the north luzon quad has done a lot though not all are publicized. i once saw a report when we joined a committee and although as always, the achievements are are less than what we expect, someone is still working, something is being done.

[BeefPapaitan]

So far na-promote naman ang tourism ng Ilocos region, lalo na ang IN. Dati pag sinabi mong Ilocos, Vigan lang ang naiisip. Ngayon pag sinabi mong Ilocos...

"Diba magaganda'ng mga beaches dun?", referring to Pagudpud. caravans usually start from Clark, then they follow selected routes, and stay for several days usually 4-7 days. Ilan e me mga conferences and pilgrimages pa rin.

Unfortunately, wala na kong naririnig mula sa OPANL mula ng mag-take-over si Chavit dito. Yung mga caravans e sinisimulan nalang ng private tours na lang.

besides, having Clark as OPANL is still an idiotic idea. :lol:

[Myrna]

Nakakatawa nga, e, no? kelan kaya naging Northern Luzon ang Clark. Nobody objected, parang walang paki.

Actually, meron din namang nagawang mabuti ang OPANL sa Ilocos. Madalas na meron tourism caravan promoting the whole Northern Luzon. Marami namang sumasali sa caravan kahit paano.

Pero, aside from tourism, mejo wala na kong naririnig mula sa OPANL.

I wonder why's Gloria constantly avoiding Northern Luzon?

Just wondering Beef...did Glo the President won in Ilocos Norte and Northern Luzon during the election?......sometimes it makes me think .....

[BeefPapaitan]

^ In Ilocos Norte, Gloria Arroyo only placed third among the presidentiables.

FPJ - 120k votes
Lacson - 82K
GMA - 41K

halos kalahati ng ke Lacson!

Sa buong Northern Luzon, She lost in almost all of the provinces except, Ilocos sur, Batanes and Benguet. I won't be surprised if she expressed shabbiness in Northern Luzon lalo na sa Ilocos Norte. Ang alam ko kasi, dito lang ata siya naging pangatlo sa overall standing ng presidentiables SA BUONG BANSA! I am not sure about that fact. usually asa first or second siya, e. Dito sa In lang ata naging third placer siya, e ang laki pa naman ng laman sa kanya ni Lacson, halos doble.

as long as she's the president, I don't expect her to love your and my favorite province or even pay a visit. Himala na lang gawin niya yun.

[daguerrson]

^ In Ilocos Norte, Gloria Arroyo only placed third among the presidentiables.

FPJ - 120k votes
Lacson - 82K
GMA - 41K

halos kalahati ng ke Lacson!

Sa buong Northern Luzon, She lost in almost all of the provinces except, Ilocos sur, Batanes and Benguet. I won't be surprised if she expressed shabbiness in Northern Luzon lalo na sa Ilocos Norte. Ang alam ko kasi, dito lang ata siya naging pangatlo sa overall standing ng presidentiables SA BUONG BANSA! I am not sure about that fact. usually asa first or second siya, e. Dito sa In lang ata naging third placer siya, e ang laki pa naman ng laman sa kanya ni Lacson, halos doble.

as long as she's the president, I don't expect her to love your and my favorite province or even pay a visit. Himala na lang gawin niya yun.

I agree with you Beef because aside from what you said, the Macapagals' dislike with the Ilocanos go as far back as the 1965 presidential election when Dadong and Ferdi were the Liberal party and Nacionalista Party candidates, respectively. Ferdi was a turncoat candidate and he won over Dadong.

[BeefPapaitan]

^ But she liked Ilocos Sur although she rarely goes there, but on Ilocos Norte, it is an entirely different story. Pakiramdam ko, parang pulubi ang mga taga-IN na pinabayaan ng kanilang nanay. :lol:

Kapag nagkaroon uli ng people power to oust Gloria, wag siyang magtaka kung maramaing taga-IN ang sumama dun.

At natatandaan ko, sinabi ni Chavit na of all the governers of our country lahat, pwera sa tatlong provinces ang sumusuporta ke Gloria. I think one of those 3 provinces is Ilocos Norte, kaya wag magtaka din si Gloria na di siya suportahan ng taga-IN dahil sa shabby treatment niya sa province natin (natin?!!). Hehehe.

Frankly speaking, di pa ko natutuwa sa resulta ng eleksyon na yan, e. Masyado pang mataas ang nakuha ni Gloria in terms of number of votes. I expected much lower. :lol:

Sensya na, guys, I really hate Gloria, just like Marcos and Erap.

[zachzech]

well it wont be the first time then, cory never set foot on ilocano soil also. and the ilocos were alright.

[amoure]

pana-panahon lang po kasi yan (weather weather lang hehehehe). during the era of marcos, favored ang province natin. now is gma's regime, so we expect she favors pampanga and those who voted for her unanimously (if ever she really got landslide votes). i cant say much about gma because im with the government. my loyalty will be questioned hehehe. i cant criticize our government because i am part and parcel of our government, as you are also part and parcel of the government, for without government, our sovereign state could not exist.

[zachzech]

yeah very through. we are what our government is because we, the people put it up in the first place. how sad

[Myrna]

^ In Ilocos Norte, Gloria Arroyo only placed third among the presidentiables.

FPJ - 120k votes
Lacson - 82K
GMA - 41K

halos kalahati ng ke Lacson!

Sa buong Northern Luzon, She lost in almost all of the provinces except, Ilocos sur, Batanes and Benguet. I won't be surprised if she expressed shabbiness in Northern Luzon lalo na sa Ilocos Norte. Ang alam ko kasi, dito lang ata siya naging pangatlo sa overall standing ng presidentiables SA BUONG BANSA! I am not sure about that fact. usually asa first or second siya, e. Dito sa In lang ata naging third placer siya, e ang laki pa naman ng laman sa kanya ni Lacson, halos doble.

as long as she's the president, I don't expect her to love your and my favorite province or even pay a visit. Himala na lang gawin niya yun.

NO wonder..she has a personnal vendetta against Ilocos Region, specially Ilocos Norte.......and no wonder she is favoring that coniving Singson....so for Gloria...it's all about politics....Ilocos fell from her grace because she did not win here(Ilocos Norte)...welll...she will have her time too( karma)....who knows..

[BeefPapaitan]

pana-panahon lang po kasi yan (weather weather lang hehehehe). during the era of marcos, favored ang province natin. now is gma's regime, so we expect she favors pampanga and those who voted for her unanimously (if ever she really got landslide votes). i cant say much about gma because im with the government. my loyalty will be questioned hehehe. i cant criticize our government because i am part and parcel of our government, as you are also part and parcel of the government, for without government, our sovereign state could not exist.

She has set foot on Nueva Ecija, Bulacan, Bataan, Tondo, Payatas, Cavite and General Santos which are known as opposition bailiwicks and FPJ won here by wide margins, but how come she didn't visit IN? Ni wala nga kong malaman na pa-project niya for this province, e.

[BeefPapaitan]

yeah very through. we are what our government is because we, the people put it up in the first place. how sad

You mean very true, right?

Yes, and unfortunately, we have a president who practices political vendetta.

[BeefPapaitan]

NO wonder..she has a personnal vendetta against Ilocos Region, specially Ilocos Norte.......and no wonder she is favoring that coniving Singson....so for Gloria...it's all about politics....Ilocos fell from her grace because she did not win here(Ilocos Norte)...welll...she will have her time too( karma)....who knows..

She's having it now.

IN may have practiced self-sufficiency and all of its project are funded by LGU, but time will come that there's a project much bigger than Bangui Windmill project and local funding won't suffice, dito natin malalaman kung me malasakit si Gloria sa IN. I hope that time will come. She must realize that she's the president of the Republic of the Philippines, not just Ilocos Sur, Cebu, Iloilo, Negros, Bohol and Surigao del Norte. It is her task to deliver services to provinces whether that provinces voted for her or not.

[zachzech]

aint all politicians do that? hehehe vendetta i mean

[BeefPapaitan]

Majority. Pero yung ke Gloria kasi masyadong obvious, e.

I searched the net kanina using the phrases...

"Gloria visits Ilocos Norte" search returned zero.
"Gloria on Ilocos Norte" wala pa din.

Bukas I'll try other searches, proving to you that this pandak lady is indifferent to our province.

[BB-M]

You know what I hear during the last elections?

She said that and I quote, I am the only Ilokano bet for president, end quote.

Hey, maybe she went there without you/us even knowing about it :)
So pwede ba Beef, give her a break naman? hehehehe.

Wawa naman baka bukas si Noli na ang nasa trono :cry:

[Myrna]

Even she doesn not visit Ilocos Norte...if she does something good for Ilocos Norte...that would be well appreciated....just wondering...has she done any project in Ilocos Norte since she was in office?

[BeefPapaitan]

You know what I hear during the last elections?

She said that and I quote, I am the only Ilokano bet for president, end quote.

Hey, maybe she went there without you/us even knowing about it :)
So pwede ba Beef, give her a break naman? hehehehe.

Wawa naman baka bukas si Noli na ang nasa trono :cry:

:lol::lol::lol:

Pumunta lang siya last elections, diba? Nagkaroon ng maigsing campaign sortie dun.

Give her a break? I'll try.

[BeefPapaitan]

Even she doesn not visit Ilocos Norte...if she does something good for Ilocos Norte...that would be well appreciated....just wondering...has she done any project in Ilocos Norte since she was in office?

Ang pagkakaalam ko...wala...

Ang pinakamalapit na alam ko lang ay yung mga tourism caravan ni OPANL Rene Diaz, pero abolished na ang OPANL.

[zachzech]

yeah. it could be worse you know pano kung si noli de castro napapunta sa trono? he has yet to prove himself.

[BeefPapaitan]

Unfortunately I have to agree that he's the successor. Ewan ko ba kung bakit itong taong ito ang naibotong VP. But if ever na siyang maupo e I'll give him a chance muna, and I hope he won't be another Erap or Gloria.

[Myrna]

Unfortunately I have to agree that he's the successor. Ewan ko ba kung bakit itong taong ito ang nai- - - -ng VP. But if ever na siyang maupo e I'll give him a chance muna, and I hope he won't be another Erap or Gloria.

Right Beef.....we must give him a chance......i just hope ...

[BeefPapaitan]

Yap, kahit wala akong tiwala sa taong ito, sige lang!

[Myrna]

Yap, kahit wala akong tiwala sa taong ito, sige lang!

Ok then...we'll wait.....till Gloria (...sorry ading Glow..it's not you...the other Gloria) resigns......but when?

[BeefPapaitan]

Hehehe, just wait and see...

On topic: More promotion of OTHER tourist spot of this province...

[Myrna]

How about Paoay....old churches...and Paoay lake....

[BeefPapaitan]

^Familiar kaming mga Manilans sa paoay.

How about Dingras ruins? Solsona rivers, Pasuquin beaches, Vintar Dam, etc. Basta yung mga tagong lugar.

[Myrna]

^Familiar kaming mga Manilans sa paoay.

How about Dingras ruins? Solsona rivers, Pasuquin beaches, Vintar Dam, etc. Basta yung mga tagong lugar.

Good places to see Beef....and maybe you drop by Marcos, Banna & Nueva Era.....

[zachzech]

well as i see it, it seems that beef is well informed on the places to go bot the popular and not so popular. well youll have to really plan for that vacation then beef. a day or even a week wont be enough. go to karingkin, se e the forests of nueva era, the hidden falls and climb the mountains of solsona, bangui and pasuquin and pagudpud.

[itsjustdell]

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[BeefPapaitan]

^Familiar kaming mga Manilans sa paoay.

How about Dingras ruins? Solsona rivers, Pasuquin beaches, Vintar Dam, etc. Basta yung mga tagong lugar.

Good places to see Beef....and maybe you drop by Marcos, Banna & Nueva Era.....

...and Dingras, too.

[zachzech]

then sa sarrat maligo ka muna dun

[BeefPapaitan]

Promote din dapat ang one of the least explored town sa In - the town of Adams

[JOSHRAVEN]

Nakapanak diay Adams, grabe its like Baguio or maybe better. There is a place that you may mistakenly consider as golf course. Most houses are made of woods, hardwoods even the roof. That is how rich the place is. Baka self sustaining na daytoy nga ili.

[Myrna]

Diak pay nakapan diay Adams ading joshraven...ngem I willl when I go for vacation....thanks a lot... I never imagine me going to Adams...but now...I have to go and see

[BB-M]

Kuna da ngarud ket kasla kanu Baguio, lush green trees. Uray diay klima na kanu ket nalamiis. Narigat sa pay lang ngamin ti dalan nga mapan idiay.

[BeefPapaitan]

I'm wondering - may kuryente na ba sa Adams?

Sabi daw sa guidebook sinisimento na daw ang daan papunta run...

[Myrna]

I'm wondering - may kuryente na ba sa Adams?

Sabi daw sa guidebook sinisimento na daw ang daan papunta run...

That I don't know ading Beef.....

[Unai]

Hindi pa 100% powered :) pero because of the Windmills in nearby Bangui malamang na malapit na :)

[BeefPapaitan]

Let us hope for that. Ano kaya...

Adams= Baguio City but less pollution and less crowded? ;)

[touchstone]

Let us hope for that. Ano kaya...

Adams= Baguio City but less pollution and less crowded? ;)

Adams no SM...hehehehe

[sairo]

Addan sa met kuryente dan a. ngem adadu pay laeng ti agususar ti karburo nga pagsilaw da.

[BeefPapaitan]

Let us hope for that. Ano kaya...

Adams= Baguio City but less pollution and less crowded? ;)

Adams no SM...hehehehe

Hala, at napasok na naman ang SM na yun. :lol:

[touchstone]

^ oops..ooops
pikon ay talo..hehehe

[BeefPapaitan]

Hindi, a! Hehehe, we used to have an SM topic here before, a topic started by yours truly. ;)

[touchstone]

Hindi, a! Hehehe, we used to have an SM topic here before, a topic started by yours truly. ;)

maganda ng klaro ang lahat! o di ba? peace beef..hehehehe