Darwin vs. Genesis - Simply Put

[Roldan]

Which one do you believe?

THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION

"THE AFFINITIES of all the beings of the same class have sometimes been represented by a great tree. I believe this simile largely speaks the truth. The green and budding twigs may represent existing species; and those produced during each former year may represent the long succession of extinct species . . .

The limbs divided into great branches, and these into lesser and lesser branches, were themselves once, when the tree was small, budding twigs; and this connexion of the former and present buds by ramifying branches may well represent the classification of all extinct and living species in groups subordinate to groups . . .

From the first growth of the tree, many a limb and branch has decayed and dropped off, and these lost branches of various sizes may represent those whole orders, families, and genera which have now no living representatives, and which are known to us only from having been found in a fossil state . . .

As buds give rise by growth to fresh buds, and these, if vigorous, branch out and overtop on all a feebler branch, so by generation I believe it has been with the Tree of Life, which fills with its dead and broken branches the crust of the earth, and covers the surface with its ever branching and beautiful ramifications"

(Darwin, 1859).


... Or,

THE 6 DAYS OF CREATION


DAY 1: GOD CREATES THE HEAVEN AND EARTH. (Gen. 1:1)
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." God creates Time, Energy, Space & Matter. God creates Light. Day and Night.

DAY 2: THE FIRMANENT IS CREATED
This firmament was a vast canopy located in the space above the earth. The firmament made up the atmosphere and a vapor cloud cover which covered the entire earth. This canopy of cloud was made in of part of the water of earth. Part of the water went into the canopy and the another part was in the atmosphere above the earth.

DAY 3: OCEANS & VEGETATIONS ARE CREATED
The Oceans and Dry Lands are Formed.
God now proceeded in separating the water that was under the canopy into one place and the ocean was formed and dry land appeared. The dry land God called "Earth" and called the waters "seas".

DAY 4: GOD CREATES SUN, MOON AND STARS
On the fourth day of Creation God created the sun, moon and stars. Up to this point in time the great expanse of space was empty. The earth existed in time before the sun around which it today rotates. Before day four the earth was rotating on its own axis and now with the creation of the sun it began its rotation in it orbit around the sun.

DAY 5: GOD CREATES THE FIRST LIVING CREATURES
The first animal life on earth was created on the fifth day of Creation. Animal life did not begin as the result of evolution's supposed "spontaneous generation". Life did not evolve, but was created whole and complete. ("God saw that it was good"). Land animals did not evolve from lower forms of sea life.

DAY 6: GOD CREATES THE HIGHER ORDER OF ANIMALS... then MAN
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Large animals are created
On the beginning of the sixth day God created the (1) cattle, (2) creeping things, (3) beast of the earth. Each was created "after his kind" and God pronounced it "good".
Small Reptiles, Worms and Insects Created
"Creeping things" would include smaller life forms that creep, crawled, walked or slid close to the earth. This would include small reptiles, worms and insects.
The statement is made twice that this part of Creation was perfect and complete, "God saw that it was good".
GOD CREATES MAN
God then created man "in Our image". This does not means that man was created physically to look like God. God is Spirit, He is not physical or material. (John 4:24). Man was created in the likeness or representation of God in that man had, intellect, emotion and a will. This means man is spiritually, intelligently and morally like God. Man's spiritual nature was damaged in the Fall and tarnished by sin.

Man was given dominion over all other life on the earth God had created. It is the Hebrew word, "radah", and means "to tread down or to rule". Adam, who was the first man, was placed in charge of the rest of Creation. He alone was made in the likeness of God having intellect, emotion and will. No animal has these attributes. Man is never in Scripture referred to as an animal. Man was God's special creation.

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On the 7th day, God rested. And so are we. And that's why we go to church on sundays.
Did you, for all your life, ever - EVER - see yourself in an ape?

Anya ti patiem?

[gr8-one]

Okay, because you go to church on Sundays, I assume you believe what the Bible says. Am I right?

God may have created us in his (physical) likness but we are acting more like an ape.
So, I'd say we're a cross between this evolution thing and what the Bible tells us :lol:

Watcha think? :)

[CLONED]

Okay, because you go to church on Sundays, I assume you believe what the Bible says. Am I right?

God may have created us in his (physical) likness but we are acting more like an ape.
So, I'd say we're a cross between this evolution thing and what the Bible tells us :lol:

Watcha think? :)I agree!

Ngem kastoy man ti kunada:

"Kasanu ngarud nu addanto nga agpayso di sika ti kakaasi? Nu mamati ka, uray matakuatam to nga awan ti Diyos iti kamaudianan na - awan ti mapukaw kenka"

[Alistair]

I remember in grade school they taught us the Darwinian Theory but there's no doubt in my mind that I still believe in the bible.

[TCardona]

So, do you believe what you've been taught? :lol:

[FlushedMX]

Where I came from, they taught us both the theory of evolution as well as the biblical version.

But until someone tells me that the bible is fake, I am going to believe that we are created by an all-powerful being we recognize as God.

[BB-M]

Where I came from, they taught us both the theory of evolution as well as the biblical version.

But until someone tells me that the bible is fake, I am going to believe that we are created by an all-powerful being we recognize as God.

So am I!!!

[Alistair]

So, do you believe what you've been taught? :lol:
I think I do but on a scale of 1-10, 9.99 is biblical - the rest is darwinian :lol:

[Unai]

I agree!

Ngem kastoy man ti kunada:

"Kasanu ngarud nu addanto nga agpayso di sika ti kakaasi? Nu mamati ka, uray matakuatam to nga awan ti Diyos iti kamaudianan na - awan ti mapukaw kenka"
Haanen a nga pammati nu kua deta.
"Mamati" gapu ta haan mo nga sigurado nu adda Dios wenno awan?
made mabalin, cloney :lol:
Haan nga agbalin deta ken ni apo Dios ta kasla mo lang lok-lokuenen nu kasta.

[Roldan]

I agree!

Ngem kastoy man ti kunada:

"Kasanu ngarud nu addanto nga agpayso di sika ti kakaasi? Nu mamati ka, uray matakuatam to nga awan ti Diyos iti kamaudianan na - awan ti mapukaw kenka"
Haanen a nga pammati nu kua deta.
"Mamati" gapu ta haan mo nga sigurado nu adda Dios wenno awan?
made mabalin, cloney :lol:
Haan nga agbalin deta ken ni apo Dios ta kasla mo lang lok-lokuenen nu kasta.

God knows a true believer :)
Believe - because you believe for no reason at all., and not;
Believe because you have to.

[Greggy]

Where I came from, they taught us both the theory of evolution as well as the biblical version.

But until someone tells me that the bible is fake, I am going to believe that we are created by an all-powerful being we recognize as God.

A lot of people, especially anti-Christs will tell you the bible is a hoax. But none of them can prove it is.

I don't even have to read the bible, or go to church on sundays, to believe there's a Supreme Being.

I just look around me.

[Unai]

Nu adda iti paspasamak nga dimo pulos mailaw-lawag. Nga haan nga masungbatan ti siasinno man, dimo kadi pay laeng patien nga adda Dios?

[Roldan]

Okay, because you go to church on Sundays, I assume you believe what the Bible says. Am I right?

God may have created us in his (physical) likness but we are acting more like an ape.
So, I'd say we're a cross between this evolution thing and what the Bible tells us :lol:

Watcha think? :)
No.
You're a cross between a Christian and an Atheist, gr8-one :lol:
If you believe in the theory of evolution, how can you believe God?

[trapper]

First off, I have nothing against the bible. It has great teachings, and encourages us to be the best we can be.

But..

I also believe that the bible was written by a man or men, and that organized religion in general is the first form of government, and was used to control people.

So in a nutshell, Organized Religion = Government = Control

Darwin, I think almost had it right. I do belive in evolution, but how Darwin puts it. After all, if we evolved from Monkey's , then WHY ARE THERE STILL MONKEY's?

Ok, are you ready for my theory..

ALIENS!

Stop laughing. Let me explain.

I belive Aliens came to earth and perormed genetic experiments on an Ape Like species that existed on this planet.

The Aliens crossed thier own highly advanced Genes, with those of the ape like creatures, and those Ape Like creatures began to evolve into modern man.

It makes sense to me.
All other primates are hairy - Aliens have no hair
All other Primates are dumb - Aliens are Smart
All other Primates are physical - Aliens use mind control

Humans are in the middle. We are somewhat smart, and somewhat hairy, and it there have been reports of humans that can move objects, fight desease, and even tell the future...now that's a poweful mind for an ape.

The human race definatly got a large boost up the evolutionary ladder from somewhere. It's like we skipped a couple thousand years. (ohhh the missing link is explained)

My theory also explains the UFO sightings that happen all over the world...It's the Aliens coming to check up their experiments... see how we are evolving.

So how do Aliens discredit the bible.

Well lets take the flaming chariots for example.
Could that not have been an UFO that was misinterpreted?
A bright oject, would be considered flaming to them, as artificial light had not yet been invented. And if beings go out of it, would it not be considered a chariott..after all back then the only other object that carried people where chariotts. ...somehing to think about anyway.

Like I said earlier, the bible is a great book, and it has great teachings.

I just don't believe it to be factual.

Fore those of you wondering. I believe in one creator, and it is just that..a creator. Christians call him God, Buddist call him Budda...ect. Same creator.

I do not believe that you have to into a building built by a man, to worship this god in the presence of a man, and confess you sins to this man, in order to be saved.

The creator is everywhere, so Pray anywhere.

I pray when I see a beatiful sunset, or the Northern Lights, because when I see that, I see him in his purest form.
After all when was the last time you heard of sunset, or northern lights abuse a child, rape a woman, steal from your neighbour.

Man is cruel. We kill in the name of this thing called religion. Almost every great war we have ever had in our history on this planet is over religion. Our soldiers, go to war and kill, rape and steal in the name of religion.

According to the bible, god created man in his own image....I don't think so.


Ya well, that's just my opinion.

[IronMaiden]

Well, theories are just theories :lol:

To tell you the truth trpper, i find more credence in your theory than Charles' :lol:


True, the bible is writen by men.
But those men were guided by their own eye-witness accounts. The things that they wrote, they didn't just hear them from someone else's. They saw it with their own eyes.

The miracles that Jesus performed - its out of this world. He definitely have super powers. Man don't have.

Furthermore, thse miracles were collaborated by four apostles. Their writings are consistent.

I still believe there's someone above us all...

... and thats my opinion :)

[Greggy]

First off, I have nothing against the bible. It has great teachings, and encourages us to be the best we can be.

But..

I also believe that the bible was written by a man or men, and that organized religion in general is the first form of government, and was used to control people.

So in a nutshell, Organized Religion = Government = Control

Darwin, I think almost had it right. I do belive in evolution, but how Darwin puts it. After all, if we evolved from Monkey's , then WHY ARE THERE STILL MONKEY's?

Ok, are you ready for my theory..

ALIENS!

Stop laughing. Let me explain.

I belive Aliens came to earth and perormed genetic experiments on an Ape Like species that existed on this planet.

The Aliens crossed thier own highly advanced Genes, with those of the ape like creatures, and those Ape Like creatures began to evolve into modern man.

It makes sense to me.
All other primates are hairy - Aliens have no hair
All other Primates are dumb - Aliens are Smart
All other Primates are physical - Aliens use mind control

Humans are in the middle. We are somewhat smart, and somewhat hairy, and it there have been reports of humans that can move objects, fight desease, and even tell the future...now that's a poweful mind for an ape.

The human race definatly got a large boost up the evolutionary ladder from somewhere. It's like we skipped a couple thousand years. (ohhh the missing link is explained)

My theory also explains the UFO sightings that happen all over the world...It's the Aliens coming to check up their experiments... see how we are evolving.

So how do Aliens discredit the bible.

Well lets take the flaming chariots for example.
Could that not have been an UFO that was misinterpreted?
A bright oject, would be considered flaming to them, as artificial light had not yet been invented. And if beings go out of it, would it not be considered a chariott..after all back then the only other object that carried people where chariotts. ...somehing to think about anyway.

Like I said earlier, the bible is a great book, and it has great teachings.

I just don't believe it to be factual.

Fore those of you wondering. I believe in one creator, and it is just that..a creator. Christians call him God, Buddist call him Budda...ect. Same creator.

I do not believe that you have to into a building built by a man, to worship this god in the presence of a man, and confess you sins to this man, in order to be saved.

The creator is everywhere, so Pray anywhere.

I pray when I see a beatiful sunset, or the Northern Lights, because when I see that, I see him in his purest form.
After all when was the last time you heard of sunset, or northern lights abuse a child, rape a woman, steal from your neighbour.

Man is cruel. We kill in the name of this thing called religion. Almost every great war we have ever had in our history on this planet is over religion. Our soldiers, go to war and kill, rape and steal in the name of religion.

According to the bible, god created man in his own image....I don't think so.


Ya well, that's just my opinion.
OK, how do you know aliens don't have hair, smart and use mind control?

If anything, movies, tv shows (like X-files), are your bases with this assumption, right?

I have read and watched a lot of documentaries about UFO sightings myself but these, like the bible, are written by men based on their - or someone else's - eye-witness accounts.

Now, for someone who doesn't believe the bible to be factual because it was written by men, how could you believe the flaming charriots and not believe that a "man" named Jesus existed - who made the blinds see, the mute speak and raised people from the dead?

Or is it my understanding that these Aliens/UFOs created/experimented on Jesus as well because he had great supernatural powers?

I find your theory to be very interesting.
You are a very intelligent man. I couldn't have come up with a theory like that.

[trapper]

My assumtion of Ailens is not based an tv or movies.

Civillizations from all differnt time periods, have reported the same sightings.

According to a few clues scattered throughout the world, alien beings could have very likely visited the earth long ago. One clue of an ancient alien visitation is found in paintings from ancient cultures that depict strange humanoid creatures. In addition, physical evidence of an ancient alien vistation is seen in artifacts from around the world that show a use of modern technology. Furthermore, ancient markings made on fields, which indicate the use of air travel, are another set of clues that show the earth could have been visited by aliens long ago.

Check you this link ofr more on ancient alien evidence. http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/alien_pictures4.html (these paintings were done years before TV and Movies idealized the Alien..one might say that TV and Movies, got their Ideas from there factual artifacts...

8O

[trapper]

I am not saying that Jesus did not exist.

But Yes I do believe him to be a genetic thro-back from a more advanced being that lies in our genetic code.

I believe Jesus was not unlike Nostradamus the profit, and Psychic Healers.

Think about it. Back in the time of Jesus, if someone could predict great storms, or illness to befall a community, and even heal with touch then he must be the son of god.

Today , we know of Nostradamus and many more fellow like him, and we hear about Psychic Healers all over the world..but we know better now then make a god out of them.

FYI. Then Philippines has the highest concetration of psychic healers in the world.

I also believe that Autistic Savants, Psychic's of all kinds, people with telekeneitc powers are all genetic-throbacks from that other alien gene we all poses.

[FlushedMX]

hey there trapper,

I agree that there are a lot of psychic/faith healers nowadays but half of them probably are fakes :lol: And nowadays we don't make of them as gods because they're nowehere close to Jesus.

Jesus is different.
His life, his existence was foretold. His birth, and how died and came back to life was predicted and written way before Him.

You say the bible to be "not factual" and yet you believe Jesus existed?

that's a clever theory you have :)

Now don't think we're ganging up on you, okay? :lol:

[trapper]

I am not afraid of being ganged up on. I have has this discussion many times times before in the Catholic community, and I always get flamed for it.
I went in to this topic prepared for a backlash.

Now my rebuttal.

Yes I do say the Bible is not Factual, and Yes I do say Jesus existed. I thought I explained this. Jesus was an extremely gifted man. He could see into the future, and heal with his hands/mind.
Now..pay attention, and I will try to break this down for ya.

Long ago in the time of Jesus, men were naive. To them the storms were created by God, and it this man they called Jesus could predict the storms coming, then he must be the son of God.
Also, many years ago, men believed that illness was brought to them by the Gods as a punishment...but if this man called Jesus could heal illness with his hands, then he must be the son of GOD.

My point is this. Nostradamous could also predict the future, as well of other less notable psychic, and psychic healers, well there a dime a dozen these days.
Today we can are not so naive to call these people Gods, or sons of Gods, we see them for what they are.

So yes the bible was written, and based on true accounts, but it is not factual because of mans limited knowledge base at the time. This caused the bible to exaggerated, and some storied were just made up to deal with unexplainable (unexplainable at the time).

The bible is rule book. A book of laws.

Gotta go, but will continue this topic later.

P.S.
I hope no one is getting upset..this is after all just my opinion..

[Greggy]

I would like to reassure you that I am not upset.
I find this topic - and your ideas - to be very interesting and I must tell you, I love reading it.
We are all learning from you.

Now to the topic...

Maybe some stories were exaggerated, but how do you explain 4 people (Mark, Matthew, John, Peter) consistent with a story about Jesus? Their accounts were written at different time periods and locations.

John the Baptist healed with his hands but people back then did not think he was the Messiah. There were also prophets back then, much like today who could predict the future but nobody thought of them as Gods.

I assume you don't believe that Jesus raised someone from the dead and that he himself died and came back to life? I assume these stories were exaggerated to you?

Are you sure that these stories about aliens are not exaggerated?

Enlighten me more.

[trapper]

The ark, as described in the Bible, could not accommodate all living creatures, despite the Bible?s assertion to the contrary. On the other hand, his common sense was not powerful enough to overcome indoctrination and to realize that the entire story about the Flood and the ark is one of the most utterly implausible tales known, with all the features of a fantastic invention.


Although the length of the unit of measurements given in the Genesis 6.15 and named cubit in the King James version is not precisely known, its approximate value, within a certain range,?can be established rather reliably. In the original Hebrew text that unit of length is called an ama. Let us see how a Hebrew dictionary explains this word. In the definitive Hamilon Haivri Hamerukaz by Even-Shoshan we read: "Ama. The measure of length roughly equal the distance between the elbow and the root of the palm of an adult man." In other words, according to the quoted dictionary, the cubit of the King James version is reasonably close to one foot in the English and American system of measurements. On the other hand, some rabbinical sources maintain that an ama was closer to two feet.? Hence, the value of a cubit can be reasonably estimated as being between one and two feet.? To make our estimations brief, we will assume that one cubit equals 1.5 foot.?


We read in Genesis 6.15: <The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits." Hence, according to the Biblical story, the ark was about four hundred fifty feet (about 150 meters) long, seventy-five feet (about 25 meters) wide and forty-five feet (about 15 meters) high.?

Not nearly larg enough to accomodate every living creature on Earth.

Now on the other hand, just how far did people actually travel in those days? I'll bet it was not very far. In fact it is possible that , the great flood did happen, and flooded many miles of land, as far as the eye could see.

For people without the means of modern transportation, as far as the eye could see, could very well be interpreted as the entire earth.

Gotta eat, but I'll be back

[BB-M]

From what I have read, Noah only had to take with him 2 each of the living creatures as opposed to "all living creatures."
But even then we can say that the ark wouldn't still be able to accommodate 2 of each kind of animal however, there are some kinds that didn't actually went into the ark.

I read that in a children's book - so maybe it was really exaggerated :lol:

[Wrath-of-Khan]

trapper yo' da man!

[Greggy]

I wonder why no book, just like the bible, was ever written about these aliens. If there is, I have not seen it yet.

So tell me trapper, don't you believe in heaven or hell?

[trapper]

I believe Heaven and Hell are the same plance. I believe that good and evil are relitive, as time is reletive.

What is good for some, is evil for others. What is evil for soem is good for others.
It is in the eys of the beholder.

Also, if you read my previous post, you would understand that I believe that ALiends were mentioned in the bible, but because the people of the past were so narrow minded, they make up there own terms.

Example.
The flaming chariots.

It is said that the flaming chariots came from Heaven to retrieve the body of Jesus.
It is reported that 2 angles emerged from the flaming chariot to retrieve the body.

Now go back to that erra and tell me how woud you explain a bright light from sky landing, and to beings getting out.

UFO's have always been described as lights in the sky. Back in the time of the bible, people would have described this light in the sky as flaming, as there was not other form of light.

Being got out of the craft, and in the time of the bible , the only craft that carried beings were chariots.

ALiens have alway been described as slender bright white beings, and in time of the bible, the only beings that could possible travel the heavens were angles.

So in my opinion the flaming chariots are a first hand encount or alien contact, then was interpreted as best they could i the bible as angles.

So why did the Aliens come to get Jesus?
Again if you read my previous posts, I believe that modern man is the result of genetic experiments by the ALiens, mixing there highly advanced DNA with the perimitve primates on this planet thousands of years ago on this planet.

I believe that Jesus was a genetic anomoly that has more of the alien gene than the most of us.
When he died, the aliens came to get him to determine why he had much more of the alien gene, then the rest of thie experimnets.

[Dixie]

well, i just think you're somewhat obsessed with alien beings Mr. Trapper :)
I respect your opinion but I don't buy it :)

[trapper]

That could be. :)
But I think I am more obsessed with finding out the truth.

Religions all over the word, only exist as the first form of oranized governemt.
Each religion has its own set of rules, and regulations to follow.
The Bible is the ultimate rulebook, but not nessacarily the work, or word of god/the creator, but the work or words of many men.


My theory is alot easier to swallow than the bible, at least for me.

After all, religions are localaized. Example: Chirstians believe in one god, muslims another, buddist another god, and so on. So who is right? It would be pretty ignorant to side with one religion, and believe that the other billions of pople that follow the remaining religions are going to Hell, or thier equivilent.

BUT

Aliens are a globally recognized all over the world. The sightings are similar all over the world.

You don't have to buy this, I am not asking you to. :D
This theory just helps me sleep better at night.

[gr8-one]

The Truth Is Out There... :)

I know our muslim brothers call their god Allah, we Christians call him Yahweh/Jehovah/Jesus(?) but I believe we are worshiping the same god - and that the only difference is how we worship him. Or call him.

That's what I think...

[trapper]

I believe that as well.

[trapper]

I want to appologise for my horrific spelling. You see there is alot of lag in this formum on my computer, and I can not see what I have typed untill 3 or 4 seconds after I typed it. So I lose my place alot, and don't notice my typos until its too late.

Sometimes I just open my word processor and copy/past, but other times I am too lazy to do that all the time.

Sorry again.

Trapper

[gr8-one]

I believe Heaven and Hell are the same plance. I believe that good and evil are relitive, as time is reletive.

What is good for some, is evil for others. What is evil for soem is good for others.
It is in the eys of the beholder.

Also, if you read my previous post, you would understand that I believe that ALiends were mentioned in the bible, but because the people of the past were so narrow minded, they make up there own terms.

Example.
The flaming chariots.

It is said that the flaming chariots came from Heaven to retrieve the body of Jesus.
It is reported that 2 angles emerged from the flaming chariot to retrieve the body.

Now go back to that erra and tell me how woud you explain a bright light from sky landing, and to beings getting out.

UFO's have always been described as lights in the sky. Back in the time of the bible, people would have described this light in the sky as flaming, as there was not other form of light.

Being got out of the craft, and in the time of the bible , the only craft that carried beings were chariots.

ALiens have alway been described as slender bright white beings, and in time of the bible, the only beings that could possible travel the heavens were angles.

So in my opinion the flaming chariots are a first hand encount or alien contact, then was interpreted as best they could i the bible as angles.

So why did the Aliens come to get Jesus?
Again if you read my previous posts, I believe that modern man is the result of genetic experiments by the ALiens, mixing there highly advanced DNA with the perimitve primates on this planet thousands of years ago on this planet.

I believe that Jesus was a genetic anomoly that has more of the alien gene than the most of us.
When he died, the aliens came to get him to determine why he had much more of the alien gene, then the rest of thie experimnets.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Trapper, better hope you can count on your assertion that the bible is "not factual" and that Jesus was just the subject of an alien's genetic experimentation - otherwise, you're doomed.
Just kidding :lol:

[Greggy]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Better count on your assertion that the bible is "not factual" and that Jesus was just the subject of an aliens' genetic experimentation - otherwise, you're doomed.
Just kidding :lol:

Yes, trapper :)
Don't worry about the typos, it happens all the time.

[FlushedMX]

Yes trapper, what if in the end you found out there is actually a god and that the bible is in fact - telling us the truth?

[trapper]

Yes trapper, what if in the end you found out there is actually a god and that the bible is in fact - telling us the truth?


Not worried about it.

This will be my last post in this thread on this topic, as I am just repeating myself over and over again.

But for the record one last time.
I do believe in GOD, and that this god goes by many names.
Man created religion to worship this god. So I do not belive in any organized religion.
Religions are the cause for all wars in our world.

And Finally, God did not create us directly, but we are the result of a genetic experiment from Advanced Alien Life.

[trapper]

All right, I am not posting here any more. This topic is dead. :wink: at least for me.

You can all read my book when it comes out. :D

LOLZ

[GenXer]

looking forward to it :lol:

[gr8-one]

sorry :)
let me re-phrase that:
l-o-o-k-i-n-g forward to it

part of it is in the censored word list, i guess :)

[bloddy]

"And it is in his own image, let us remember, that Man creates God"
~ (H. Havelock Ellis).
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"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God"
~ (George H.W. Bush).

I just thought I'd share those quotable quotes :)

[BenLopez]

Thanks for sharing but wait, which Bush is that?
The first Bush or the current Bush?

[BenLopez]

Well, I'm not an atheist but isn't that discrimination (or is it)? Where is freedom of choice? I think it's not appropriate for a president to label his people like that?

Well, it's not my proble and I really don't care :)

[mrnoel]

what a topic. :D

[BenLopez]

napintas ti panagde-debate da anya mrnoel? :lol:
ngem uray anya ti sawsawen da, mamati ak latta :lol:

[Myrna]

when I first learned about Darwin's theory of evolution...it blew my mind...but whatever he said that all life is related, and has descended from a common ancestor...in my mind and my heart...I don't believe a thing about he said...I believe that God created man.. for much of the alleged evidence that filled text books over the last 50 years, has now been reclassified or rejected, and that they are saying that human evolution is a theory in denial....., w/ all these fossil evidence it is clear that human evolotion did not happen at all...and u know what..I am sure that I did not originated from Darwin's theory?...I never had the urge to swing from tree to tree....

[LastUnicorn]

Well... I may not swing from the trees but I do sometimes have the urge to eat Bananas

[Myrna]

Well... I may not swing from the trees but I do sometimes have the urge to eat Bananasmaybe ur hungry ...bananas is good 4 the body..my doctor says.. helps prevent old age...(kabaw..or shall I say... alheimerz)...so... keep eating bananas !..at least ur not yet swinging on trees!..lol

[BenLopez]

Well... I may not swing from the trees but I do sometimes have the urge to eat Bananas
So am I, LastUnicorn :lol:

[JefJef]

when I first learned about Darwin's theory of evolution...it blew my mind...but whatever he said that all life is related, and has descended from a common ancestor...in my mind and my heart...I don't believe a thing about he said...I believe that God created man.. for much of the alleged evidence that filled text books over the last 50 years, has now been reclassified or rejected, and that they are saying that human evolution is a theory in denial....., w/ all these fossil evidence it is clear that human evolotion did not happen at all...and u know what..I am sure that I did not originated from Darwin's theory?...I never had the urge to swing from tree to tree....

..myrna, your belief to God and his creation is definitely correct and should be compared to Darwin's theory. God's work cannot be explained via Darwin's theory. These are two different subject cannot and will not meet at all, at any end. let us not mixed these two unreconcilable subject. rgrds..

[CLONED]

Malagip ko idiay "LOGIC" mi on one session kuna diay instructor mi:

Monkey eats banana,
Chloe eats banana.

Therefore, Chloe is a monkey!

Think about it... :lol:

[Trinity]

Malagip ko idiay "LOGIC" mi on one session kuna diay instructor mi:

Monkey eats banana,
Chloe eats banana.

Therefore, Chloe is a monkey!

Think about it... :lol:
OR...
Monkey eats banana,
Chloe eats banana.

Therefore, monkey is a Chloe (Human Being)! :lol:
Yeah, I remember this one as well.

[Myrna]

Ur ryt Jefjef....still...it's confusing....but....my faith in God never wavered because of Darwins Theory.... :)

[los_ilocanoz]

nu mamati tay jay genesis asino ngarud ti nangisurat dijay ken kasanu nga maamuan tayu nga dijay nga tao ket agibagbaga ti husto haan nga istorya lang..

[FlushedMX]

loz, don't "lose" your hope.

Kuna na idiay biblia:
"Lucky are those who saw and believe for they will be saved,
But luckier are those who didn't and yet believed for the kingdom of heaven belong to them".

Well, not word for word but it means something like that and so I stand to be corrected. :lol:

[Greggy]

Anya nga Chapter deta ken verse ti palasarakan idiay biblia? Nabayag diak nagbasa ti biblian ket.

[BB-M]

Dayta ket idiay New Testament.
Nu anya nga Chapter ken Verse kitaek tu pay.

[LastUnicorn]

I don't care what anyone tells me about the Bible being fake. I have seen both sides and only by the Lords hand have I survived. And by his hand met my beautiful wife/ soulmate.

[FlushedMX]

nu mamati tay jay genesis asino ngarud ti nangisurat dijay ken kasanu nga maamuan tayu nga dijay nga tao ket agibagbaga ti husto haan nga istorya lang..
Good point.

[Myrna]

nu mamati tay jay genesis asino ngarud ti nangisurat dijay ken kasanu nga maamuan tayu nga dijay nga tao ket agibagbaga ti husto haan nga istorya lang..
Good point.

as FlushedMX said..U have a point...oh well...to each his own....as long as I am alive.....and well..

[zachzech]

ayna narigat a saritaan dayta ta ti faith ken science are two different things..one is perceivable by the senses the other goes beyond the explainable so, i think the challenge is to let them coexist and never let them go against each other....questioning the author of genesis would letting science and logic enter the world of faith and well, as far as i am concerned, that wouldnt be advisable....

tama si myrna why question your existence...just live and do anything that is there for you to do for you pass this way only once...

[linda]

wen tay kunadan nga narigat nga saritaan ti politiko ken religion..lalo kaniak ket saanak nga politician ken religious but don't get me wrong i read bible and i'm also a god fearing person

[Myrna]

wen tay kunadan nga narigat nga saritaan ti politiko ken religion..lalo kaniak ket saanak nga politician ken religious but don't get me wrong i read bible and i'm also a god fearing personThat's okey linda..... God fearing, is good enough....

[zachzech]

have you ever noticed that whenever you have something you cant explain you turn to Him and everything is okay and understood? in the end, God is the answer...

[Myrna]

have you ever noticed that whenever you have something you cant explain you turn to Him and everything is okay and understood? in the end, God is the answer...

Yes zachzech...in my lifetime...I had weathered lots of problems...but with HIM...I always came out as a whole...prayers do help....I believe in the passage...ask, and you shall receive.......

[zachzech]

delight yourself in the Lord and He shall give you the desires of your heart...