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BB-M
07-08-2004, 06:37 PM
Hinostage dan ti maysa nga kailian ken kadaraan tayo, anya kadi met ti makuna yo?
Adda agarup 50 Filipino troopers nga agserserbi idiay Iraq ket gapu iti tension ita sadiay ken iti hostage-taking ti maysa kadagiti troopers tayo, dapat kadi nga pagtalinaeden ni GMA wenno pagawiden dan ket bareng masalbar pay ti biag ti maysa nga kadaraan tayo?
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2004/jul/09/yehey/images/mainphoto.jpgTi Pinoy hostage nga ni Angelo dela Cruz

Anakin Skywalker
07-08-2004, 10:05 PM
Trooper kadi isuna wenno OCW?

FlushedMX
07-09-2004, 03:18 AM
Pull out.

op_p-eng
07-09-2004, 03:33 AM
No. Pulling out is tantamount to giving in to terrorists. Let's just hope and pray that Mr. dela Cruz will be released unharmed.

BenLopez
07-09-2004, 08:27 AM
Pull out.

If he was your relative, an uncle, a little brother, would your decision be the same?

I don't think pulling out means giving in to terrorists.
This is a matter of life and death. We shouldn't have been there in the first place.

BB-M
07-09-2004, 06:27 PM
Diak maawatan ngamin dagitoy militant Iraqis.
"Humanitarian" met ti purpose ti kaada dagiti Fil. troops idiay, haan nga tapno mang-occupy iti Iraq.
Can't they be spared?

Agkararag tayo ngarud para iti kailyan tayo.

los_ilocanoz
07-10-2004, 12:34 AM
pull out!!!

uray humanitarian ti ubra da idiay haan nga maawatan dagiti terorista, isu nga amin nga mapan idiay nga nacion ket inda i-hostage..

ROXYBLUE
07-10-2004, 03:20 AM
Kaasi met nga agpayso daytoy kailyan tayo.
Ala, bareng ag-succeed ni Cimatu nga maki-negotiate kadagiti kidnappers para iti freedom toy kailyan tayo.

Kaasi met dagitay pamilya na.

op_p-eng
07-10-2004, 04:03 AM
Pull out.

If he was your relative, an uncle, a little brother, would your decision be the same?

I don't think pulling out means giving in to terrorists.
This is a matter of life and death. We shouldn't have been there in the first place.

If I were GMA and Mr. dela Cruz is my relative, of course it would be much bigger dilemma and I would agonize over and over my final decision, which would haunt me for the rest of my life. But in the end the decision would still be no pull out for the good of the nation. We must stay resolute in times of crises; we can't allow terrorists to control us even to the fate of our beloved. Terrorists don't have word of honor. If we pull out then they would have won.

There are strings attached when we align our nation to others. In supporting the US in its war on terrorism, we are then rewarded with sending labor force and maybe in the long run contracts in rebuilding Iraq. This would ease some of the local unemployment and would bring the much-needed foreign currency. I bet you, this is the thinking behind sending the 50 or so token soldiers in Iraq; again for the good of the nation. I understand Mr. dela Cruz is one of the labor force that is now in Iraq.

Aglualo tay kitdi tapno dagitoy terrorista ket pabulusan da ni Mr. dela Cruz.

Roldan
07-10-2004, 06:09 PM
Good news!
Danadani sa mapalubusanen ni mr. Angelo dela Cruz.

Itul-tuloy tao ti kararag tayo kakailyan.

Greggy
07-10-2004, 06:31 PM
Pull out.

If he was your relative, an uncle, a little brother, would your decision be the same?

I don't think pulling out means giving in to terrorists.
This is a matter of life and death. We shouldn't have been there in the first place.

If I were GMA and Mr. dela Cruz is my relative, of course it would be much bigger dilemma and I would agonize over and over my final decision, which would haunt me for the rest of my life. But in the end the decision would still be no pull out for the good of the nation. We must stay resolute in times of crises; we can't allow terrorists to control us even to the fate of our beloved. Terrorists don't have word of honor. If we pull out then they would have won.

There are strings attached when we align our nation to others. In supporting the US in its war on terrorism, we are then rewarded with sending labor force and maybe in the long run contracts in rebuilding Iraq. This would ease some of the local unemployment and would bring the much-needed foreign currency. I bet you, this is the thinking behind sending the 50 or so token soldiers in Iraq; again for the good of the nation. I understand Mr. dela Cruz is one of the labor force that is now in Iraq.

Aglualo tay kitdi tapno dagitoy terrorista ket pabulusan da ni Mr. dela Cruz.
I respect your stand.
But the truth is, like one of you said, we shouldn't have been in Iraq in the first place.
We have much bigger problem before us in our own country. Before we clean up others' backyards, lets do ours first.
If I was president, I wouldn't mind sending troops but it must be justified.
The US' primary reason in going to war with Iraq is because of these so-called WMD. Until now nothing has been found. In other words, we aligned with the US without justification. My gut feeling tells me that we sided with the US because the Arroyo gov't was concerned that the funds/aids promised by the US gov't will not be delivered.

We really shouldn't be there. We have terrorism in our own country. Let's solve that before helping others to solve theirs.

un lang po.

arnie
07-11-2004, 06:39 AM
adu ti mangibag-baga nga napalubusanen in Angelo dela Cruz, ngem kuna met ti dadduma haan pay. Anya ti pudno?

IronMaiden
07-11-2004, 07:07 PM
Let us continue to pray that dela Cruz captors will free him soon.
Who is responsible for this reporting fiasco that he is freed?

FlushedMX
07-12-2004, 12:51 AM
Pull out ngaminen apo GMA.

Myrna
07-12-2004, 04:51 AM
I just saw it on TV, CNN, FoX , etc...they already freed him...though...I agree with Greggy, and FlushedMX...what are they(Filipinos) doing there, the Philippines have more problem(terrorism, etc), just let those bigger and richer countries deal with Iraq.

CLONED
07-12-2004, 05:09 AM
Saan dan sa pay nga pinalubosan ta in-extend da iti 9 more days kakailyan. Naamak pay ta nagragragsaken dagidi kakabagyan ni Angelo idiay Pampanga idi naipadamag nga narukatanen. Diay ragsak da ket nagbalin met lang nga liday.
Ala, itultuloy tayo iti panagkararag tayo para iti kailyan tayu.

Wrath-of-Khan
07-12-2004, 07:06 AM
I'm confused!
I dont know what to believe.
Is he free or not?

gr8-one
07-12-2004, 07:30 AM
Remember This?
In an attempt to become the "news leader", to be the first in reporting the biggest event of the day, the NY Post became the butt of jokes instead.

A bad tip? Who knows!

Ngem sapay koma ta mawayawayaan to met lang ti kailian tayo nga ni Angelo Dela Cruz.

BB-M
07-12-2004, 07:14 PM
I, too don't support GMA's decision to send our troops there in Iraq but what else can we do kakabsats?
We may not support our president's decision but the least we can do is to show our support to our fellow Filipinos deployed there in Iraq right now.
Let's All Wear a Yellow Ribbon!

http://www.operationsandbox.com/images/ribbon.jpg

Darius
07-12-2004, 08:47 PM
Save Angelo Dela Cruz!!!
GMA, Pull out of Iraq now!

If he was your son, or brother - what would you have done madam President?

For once in your life, do the right thing.
Please your fellow Pinoys, not Bush!

gr8-one
07-12-2004, 11:23 PM
I'm sorry, I take my previous post back :cry:
It appears that the media were led to believe that dela Cruz was freed due to a statement by Patricia Sto. Tomas, a ranking gov't official.

False Alarm...
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/aponline/23296.67PHILIPPINES-IRAQ-HOSTAGE.sff.jpg

FlushedMX
07-13-2004, 03:37 AM
False alarm from a false president kuna da metten?
Ala kakabsat itul-tuloy tayo latta iti agdawat iti kaasi kenni apo Diyos para iti kailyan tayo nga ni Angelo.

Nabuya yo ngata met diay pinamayan da kenni Berg.
I can't stand another sight of a beheading publish on the web, especially that of a kailyan.

juVans
07-13-2004, 04:14 AM
ana pay la't papanan da ta Iraq? no siak, kaykayat ko la't matay ti bisin dita pilipinasen a ngem tay mapan dita naka-am-amak nga nasyon

gr8-one
07-13-2004, 08:26 AM
Narigat nga desisyonan.

Amangan ta nu i-pullout ni GMA dagiti troopers tayu idiay Iraq adadda nga ma-encourage dagiti militante nga ag-hostage iti sab-sabali pay nga puli.

leenzkie
07-13-2004, 09:08 AM
Yes, she should pull out the troops in Iraq. she knows from the beginnining that going to that war is immoral. There is no basis for that war. US just want to occupy Iraq because of their abundance of oil. Finally, we have insurgency problem in the country, why not tackle our problems here rather than going to war. I am right why I did not vote for her.(GMA)

FlushedMX
07-13-2004, 10:15 AM
Ag-pull out da kanon...
Angelo dela Cruz is safe.

connoiseur
07-13-2004, 04:56 PM
By MANUEL T. CAYON
TODAY Reporter


DAVAO CITY - An organization of overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) asked President Arroyo to place the interest of the Filipinos ?over and above [her] political agenda? in deciding the fate of a Filipino truck driver facing beheading in Iraq.


The Center for Overseas Workers (COW), said that ?Angelo de la Cruz, a father of eight, never wished to play sacrificial lamb nor wanted to become a global figure or hero.?


?All he wanted was to provide food to his eight children and his wife, and have his blind son operated. This desire makes him a hero enough,? the COW said. De la Cruz is employed in Saudi Arabia, but he was abducted by his captors in Iraq, to where he drove his truck.


For this motivation to work in the Middle East, the group said President Arroyo should ensure the safety of de la Cruz ?and the rest of the OFWs facing risks everyday.?


?We urge President Arroyo, given [her six-year mandate], to take action, fulfill her responsibility and put the interest of the people over and above any political agenda,? the group said.


The COW has referred to President Arroyo?s commitment to the United States-led Coalition of the Willing to support the US war on Iraq by sending a 51-man humanitarian contingent to Iraq to help in its pacification and rehabilitation. The commitment was also instigated by a promise of more U.S. assistance and work opportunity in Iraq for Filipinos.


Despite earlier warning from other senior government officials and political partymates to pull out the Filipino troops and stop possible retaliation on OFWs, and amid the withdrawal of troops of Spain and three South American countries, President Arroyo maintained her pro-US position and word to President George W. Bush assuring him of her support.


The COW said, however, that de la Cruz and the other OFWs did not go to the Middle East and other troubled spots to support President Arroyo?s commitment to the US, but for the ?immense call for employment in war-torn countries and provide a decent life for their [impoverished] families.?


?We summon the government to prioritize the rights and welfare of the OFWs and put under it [her] political interest,? the COW said.


The group also urged the Filipinos ?never to cease pressure on President Arroyo and the other world leaders [so as] not to deprive de la Cruz of his right to and choice for life.?

Safe kadi nga talagan?

BB-M
07-13-2004, 06:43 PM
Narigat nga desisyonan.

Amangan ta nu i-pullout ni GMA dagiti troopers tayu idiay Iraq adadda nga ma-encourage dagiti militante nga ag-hostage iti sab-sabali pay nga puli.
Husto ka gayyem.
Naamiris ko, kasla husto tay kuna ni diputado Neric Acosta nga "withdrawal will be viewed as a sign of vulnerability and weakness" of the pHil. government.

Too bad we made the mistake of sending our troops there in Iraq.

Nu pay nu kasta, saan tayo met mababalaw ni GMA. I think what she's trying to do is putting the interest of the Filipino first and foremost before anybody else's.

A tough decision indeed!

Anakin Skywalker
07-13-2004, 10:18 PM
Kitam ket disappointed ni Bush en?
Haan nga bale, maragsakan met dagitay constituents mo GMA :)

But in the end, anya man ti desisyon ti presidente tayo, isu ti suportarak although kayat ko nga iyawid nan dagitay kailyan tayo nga peacekeepers idiayen.

Trinity
07-14-2004, 01:19 AM
We should not pull out.
While it was a mistake to send our troops to Iraq, pulling them out now will not solve it. Except for Spain, there hasn't been any participating country that pulled its troops out due to threat of beaheading. Moreover, Spain's case is entirely different.

We should not pull out. We should not set the precedent.

I hate to say this but Mr. dela Cruz is another Berg, another Korean, Bulgarian.

Then again, they are not sacrificial lambs".
They are our modern day heroes. Let us no forget them.

FlushedMX
07-14-2004, 02:44 AM
RP BEGINS PULL OUT (http://www.inq7.net/brk/2004/jul/14/brkpol_3-1.htm)

Bush must be disappointed. There goes your monetary aids, GMA.

BenLopez
07-14-2004, 07:23 AM
Last resort kadin dayta tapno ma-save ni Angelo?
I-suggest ko koma nga ipatulod da ni VOLTA nga isu ti mapan mangisalakan.

los_ilocanoz
07-14-2004, 07:34 AM
Last resort kadin dayta tapno ma-save ni Angelo?
I-suggest ko koma nga ipatulod da ni VOLTA nga isu ti mapan mangisalakan.

:lol:

CLONED
07-14-2004, 09:41 AM
Let the Iraqis free themselves!