RP Corruption not bad? Really?

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RP CORRUPTION NOT BAD

PRESIDENT Arroyo on Wednesday played down the global report on corruption where the Philippines was ranked as one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

Many Asian countries were also ranked as some of the most corrupt according to the Transparency International listing.

The President said the report on perceptions of corruption did not take into consideration actions taken by Asian governments, especially the Philippines, to minimize if not eradicate corruption.

?We may not have breached the level of perceptions on corruption in our country, but we are surely doing something about it, which is not reflected in the report,? the President said.

The country shared the 92nd slot with Pakistan and six other nations with just 2.5 points out of a perfect score of 10, which means being ?highly clean.?

President Arroyo said with the recent reforms being imposed by the government, corruption in the bureaucracy is starting to fall down.

?Our revenue agencies are registering increases in collections. The drive for good governance is inexorably moving forward,? she said.

She expressed confidence that positive results of the reforms and lifestyle checks would soon be reflected and we are confident it will eventually have an influence on corruption perceptions on the Philippines.

Transparency International?s recent report showed that only Singapore, Hong Kong and Japan were among the few who are on the top 21 of least corrupt nations out of 133 polled in its annual survey.

Bangladesh scored 1.3 out of 10 just edging out Nigeria.

Myanmar, ranked 129 and Indonesia, 122, also had rankings of less than two out of 10, which mean that corruption was ?pervasive? in those countries.

Vietnam got a score of 2.4; India, 2.8 points; and Thailand, despite a booming economy, got a score of 3 falling on the 70th position.

China and Sri Lanka were on the 66th slot with 3.4 points, South Korea got 4.3 and Malaysia with 5.2 points on the 37th position.

- Ma. Theresa Torres, Reporter (The Manila Times)

[TCardona]

May not be that bad, but we are still lagging behind other ASEAN countries.

Aren't we still the "basket case of Asia?"

[juVans]

No awan ti kuarta, awan ti makurap.

Ti sabali a sao, saan a pobre ti Pilipinas, adu ti kuarta ti Pilipinas, isu nga adu ti kurakot.

Hehe.

[daguerrson]

The Philippines is still the banana republic that it was several decades ago - "sagging economy" it was kiddingly called. It has not made any considerable progress the way Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, and Thailand have made. And yet the Philippines was the first to have a jump-start right after the second world war. Vietnam is now on its way to economic progress and the Asian Giant which has been sleeping for centuries - China, is now the new melting pot. It is absorbing most of the US factories that have relocated due to high cost of production.

One wonders, why can't the Philippines do that? The answer is: it could have done that long, long time ago but the problem is, whenever negotiations like these take place, some people in high places in the government ask for "grease money" first before any agreement gets finalized. That kills the hen that lays the golden egg.

Something is wrong with the system.

The prevailing perception now is to get into politics not to serve your constituency but to enrich yourself to serve yourself. Look at many of those who are in power now, their assets have multiplied!

No amount of favorable surveys can cover up the truth. Neither can denials from high places.

[juVans]

Something is wrong with the system.



Who?s to blame then: the corrupt and inept leaders in our government or the dumb masses that elect them in power?

[FlushedMX]

Too much red tape.
Our politicos make it look like corruption is in their blood & veins.
It's a way of (political) life.

I wonder how much money is enough? It seems as though they have this insatiable hunger for wealth which drives them to corruption.

We are a third world country - the sad part is, we are right at the bottom of the list.

I am pathetic....

[zachzech]

corruption starts at the very smallest form of organization in our country so why wonder why it is worse in the government?

[BB-M]

I wonder how much money is enough? It seems as though they have this insatiable hunger for wealth which drives them to corruption. I am pathetic....
Langgong da ngarud amin dagita corrupt nga plotiko tayo, FlushedMX. Dida pay la kuntento ta bilyon nga kuarta, kayat da ket amin sa nga kinabaknang ti lubong ket kukuwa da koma nu mabalbalin.

Why have so much money if you can't - or don't have the time to spend it?
Siyempre awan to ti oras da nga mangigaston a ta ta la ag-corrupt ti pampanunoten dan :) Langgong da nga talaga anya?

I am pathetic....
Uray siyak :)

[BB-M]

corruption starts at the very smallest form of organization in our country so why wonder why it is worse in the government?Baka nasaysayaat payen nu awan gobyerno tayo hahaha.

[juVans]

corruption starts at the very smallest form of organization in our country so why wonder why it is worse in the government?

For example...

[juVans]

corruption starts at the very smallest form of organization in our country so why wonder why it is worse in the government?Baka nasaysayaat payen nu awan gobyerno tayo hahaha.


Surutek sa la tay imbaga ni John F. Kennedy nga:

Think NOT of what the government can do for you BUT what you can do for the government.

Isu nga what I can do ket "abolisen tay ngaruden ta gobyerno tayo total USELESS met!"

Ken para umasenso tayo, ikkaten tay ta CRAB MENTALITY ken COLONIAL MENTALITY a maminpinsan.

[linda]

corruption starts at the very smallest form of organization in our country so why wonder why it is worse in the government?Baka nasaysayaat payen nu awan gobyerno tayo hahaha.


Surutek sa la tay imbaga ni John F. Kennedy nga:

Think NOT of what the government can do for you BUT what you can do for the government.

Isu nga what I can do ket "abolisen tay ngaruden ta gobyerno tayo total USELESS met!"

Ken para umasenso tayo, ikkaten tay ta CRAB MENTALITY ken COLONIAL MENTALITY a maminpinsan.
...he he J.F.K said quote; ask not, what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country.....

[BB-M]

Abolien ngarud ti gobyerno tayun :)
Siguro mayat nu "Anarchy" form of government ti gobyerno ti Pilipinas, amangan nu isu ti maibagay :lol:

[nolito]

Corruption ket ayanna uray sadino nga lugar. Ngem idiay Pilipinas diak ammo no kuna ti dadduma nga saan nga napalalo. adu ngamin ti makagapu ti corruption idiay. Dagitoy ti dadduma nga makagapu:
1. Dagiti agturay nga awan ti ammo da no di la ti mangpabaknang ti pamilya ken kabagyan da.
2. Agtuturay nga ti ambisyon da ket ag balin nga naturay. Power and control.
3. Law enforcers who do not have the will and guts to do their job.
4. Masaksakit nga Ekonomya.
5. Nakapsut nga Check and balances between judicial,legeslative and executive branch.
6. Old custom and tradition: compadre system.
Adu ti banbanag nga makagapu dagitoy laeng ti adda nga mapanunot ko
nga agdama.
Look at South Korea, After the war in the fifties it was one of the poorest country in south east asia. But due to their determination, discipline and hard work, today South Korea is now one of the leading economic power in Asia.

[nolito]

I respectfully disagree that dissolving the government will solve the corruption problem in the Philippines. If you dissolve the government there will be anarchy and the nation will be in state of lawlessness, confusion, disorder and chaos. This will lead to the the famous "Rule of the Jungle" survival of the fittest. I think it will be worst. What I believed to be the best solution is to reform the government and society. The nation as a whole must be willing to sacrifice and it requires honest and competent leaders in order to succeed. They must clean up all the Law Enforcement Agencies. Institute tougher laws to maintain peace and order.
The question is how many leaders have the courage to put aside their personal interest for the common good of the country? Are the people willing to take the challenge?

[Anakin Skywalker]

Ti rigat na ket awan mayat nga mangiset-aside ti personal nga interest da nolito that is why I believe nga the only way nga mapadisi dagita ket nu awanen ti linteg :) :lol:

[Anakin Skywalker]

pardon my barbaric idea :) but a lot of discussions have been made about this corruption in the philippines and up until now, kasdiay met lattan. pumalpalalon sa payen. :lol:

[nolito]

Anakin Skywalker, everybody is entitled to their opinion and I respect that. But again just like I said earlier If you abolish the government it just create more problems. Think about the regional divisions, divisions within the regions and different clans competing within a region. We are talking about the rich who has already established their power bases who want to dominate a region. What happen to the poor like us. Of course they will either try to stand and fight or succomb to the most powerful rich and be slaves. So I still believe that the chances are better If the People unite for the common good of the country. With the right people in the leadership positions, which I believe that there are still many of them out there If given a chance will make it happen. I think it's possible.

[juVans]

I respectfully disagree that dissolving the government will solve the corruption problem in the Philippines....

No worry my friend. If you disagree of one?s statement, that is fine to me. Everyone here is welcome to share his or her own beliefs. Remember that this forum is for exchange of ideas and opinions.

If somebody is saying that our government should be abolished is because of lost of trust, confidence, and hope.

For instance, many of our citizens do not pay their taxes because they do not TRUST the government. They are afraid of having their money being spent by other person who knows nothing but corruption. If they feel that the government is spending their money wisely in useful and practical projects, then the government can restore the trust of the people. In that way, the people have the CONFIDENCE to pay their dues, and then the government increases the collection of taxes.

And there was a survey that says -- to quote, ?I would rather die in foreign soil than starve to death in my own land.? -- which is quite true for people who loss their HOPE in the government. For example, more and more Filipinos leave their motherland just to go abroad in search for a greener pasture. As we all know, opportunity here is scarce. And the best Filipino minds are working abroad. If the government can find a way to create jobs or livelihood opportunities here, then we can no longer be confined to supplying labor and talents to other countries. Then the HOPE we aspire is just within our grasp.

TRUST. CONFIDENCE. HOPE. These, I believed, are the three important ingredients for the government to make a successful meal to achieve unity (as you said) and progress.

[juVans]

pardon my barbaric idea :) but a lot of discussions have been made about this corruption in the philippines and up until now, kasdiay met lattan. pumalpalalon sa payen. :lol:


Leaders may change BUT the system remains the same. :wink:

[juVans]

Look at South Korea, After the war in the fifties it was one of the poorest country in south east asia. But due to their determination, discipline and hard work, today South Korea is now one of the leading economic power in Asia.

The problem is we are not disciplined, punctual and focused. And we always looks forward to eating: lunch, dinner, party; spend too much time watching TV(showbiz!), chatting, replying forum, emailing, texting, and the most obvious - SEX. Of course, there is a lot more. We are so stupid!

And why are many Filipinos stupid?

First, while nations all over the world want to learn English because they know they can be competitive only in English, many Filipinos want to downgrade English and mainly teach Tagalog in our schools.

Second, instead of upgrading the inferior quality of our educational system, they punish our students by prolonging it through a so called "bridge" program.

The solution is simply to improve, not to stretch or prolong it.

Third, Filipinos in droves studied such courses as "commerce" and other courses leading to white-collar jobs, while the Taiwanese and other nations pushed vocational courses. They have become "tiger" economies while the Philippines are in a perpetual rut.

Fourth, as Lee Kuan Yew said, when Filipinos make plans, they consider such plans already as an achievement, never mind the implementation.

Have we not noticed so many of our leaders screaming from the bottom of their belly to the root of their tongue about this strategy or that, and when their strategy is adopted as policy, they are not concerned if it is ever implemented at all?

Fifth, as Lee Kuan Yew also said, politics in the Philippines, with its focus on plans rather than on the implementation of plans, became the national parlor game and kept its economy at a very slow pace, while other nations which are now very progressive were minimal in politics but full-speed in industrial planning and implementation?

Sixth, Filipinos are indeed the stupidest people on earth because when they set a meeting at seven o'clock, some of them will arrive at eight o'clock, most at nine, thus adding the phrase, "Filipino time" to English vocabulary.

Seventh, Filipinos claim they take shower everyday, and keep their bodies clean. But step into a Filipino restaurant or hotel and chances are that its toilets are not working, or if working they are stinking, waterless and full of unflushed shit of various sizes, different shapes, assorted smells, many shades of color, texture and taste?

Eighth, even if Filipinos are now way behind most nations in national development, some still hallucinate that Filipinos are world-class, saved by such individual achievers as Manny Pacquiao, Lea Salonga, Patricia Evangelista, etc.

The greater truth is that we have never had any of the thousands of Nobel Prizes ` in physics, science, economics, literature ` that have been given out for decades.

Our best universities `Ateneo, La Salle, University of the Philippines ` rank only below 80 or 100 among the best institutions of learning in the whole of Asia, behind schools in Japan, China, India, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore, Indonesia.

In other words, we cannot even rank higher than 80, or place in the 50s or 40s And yet we claim to be the most literate nation in Asia. We are full of yabang, and yet we are stupid.

Ninth, our canvassing of votes is the longest in the world, and yet the opposition wanted to make it 100 times longer by opening the election returns. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Tenth, text message capabilities came to our land and we have become the text capital of the world ` not because of more communication owing to more industrial development, but because of a stupid addiction to text messages that are useless, banal, silly, meaningless, insipid, loquacious, unproductive, multiplying by the thousands the Filipino capacity for spit and tongue-wagging.


If we can weed out all these ten embarrassing fu***** b*t*** of us, then we can surpass the achievement of Japan and be the new superpower of Asia and the whole world.

[juVans]

The question is how many leaders have the courage to put aside their personal interest for the common good of the country? Are the people willing to take the challenge?


If you run for President, I will vote for you. I hope you are the one that can make our country better. I hope you'll replicate Lee Kuan Yew or even beyond him. :wink:

[nolito]

Well said juVans. I think you have a better knowledge of the problems of the Philippines than I do. But I don't think we Filipinos are stupid. As for being a candidate for president I wish I can.

[zachzech]

way i see it the best filipino brains are abroad...but what can they do there to help the country they left?

[Greggy]

This is the first time I've heard about that bridge program, what is it for and what is it about?

[juVans]

^

Visit this site and you'll know: http://www.gov.ph/faqs/bridgeprogram.asp

[juVans]

way i see it the best filipino brains are abroad...but what can they do there to help the country they left?


One thing you can do is drop by to WoWoWee(ABS-CBN) and contribute decent amount of your dollars for the joke time portion, hehe. (Korn-Niks!)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[SuperGlow]

As far as I remember...nasa kinder pa lang ako, CORRUPTION was the first word I learned...wala na akong narinig kundi "corruption"...Mapa-Marcos, Ramos hanggaang kay Gloria na hindi ako...may corruption....Haay, cancer talaga ang corruption...Kahit mga good blood cells nadadamay. I just feel bad..kasi it is so hard to resolve this problem...

[FlushedMX]

Tama ka diyan gloria pero lumalala na ang corruption d2. Hindi na biro ang hirap ng buhay ngayon :cry:

[SuperGlow]

Alam mo kung meron lang akong magagawa...I will do something abt it...ako nga si gloria, pero hindi ako si Gloria na presidente..LOL...

[FlushedMX]

Hahahaha, I like your sense of humor :)
Kidding aside, talaga nga narigat ti biyag ditoyen. Napia pay kanu idi ni marcos ta adda disiplina ti tao kuna da man :)

[SuperGlow]

Hahahaha, I like your sense of humor :)
Kidding aside, talaga nga narigat ti biyag ditoyen. Napia pay kanu idi ni marcos ta adda disiplina ti tao kuna da man :)Alam mo kailangan tawanan ang problema...You know even if i'm in the states...affected pa rin ako sa nangyayari sa atin...from where are you in Ilocos???

[zachzech]

and like the molave we shall rise....gods will walk on brown legs....

[FlushedMX]

Tawanan ang problema?
E, paano kung ang isang problema ay yung di ka makatawa :)

Sa emoticons na nga lang ako ngumi-ngiti ( :) ) at tumatawa ( :lol: ) e

[SuperGlow]

Tawanan ang problema?
E, paano kung ang isang problema ay yung di ka makatawa :)

Sa emoticons na nga lang ako ngumi-ngiti ( :) ) at tumatawa ( :lol: ) eVERRY FUNNY FLUSHED....Oo nga paano ka nga makakatawa kung ang problema mo hindi makatawa...sobrang nakakatawa ka...para akong sirang humahalak-hak ngayon..kamuntik ko ng nabasa ang key board ko....hahahaha...pinipigil mo ang tawa mo kaya sa emotions ka na lang nag-react....
Thank you...first time kong tumawa ngayong araw na ito...salamat sa tawa....ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Ano na nga ba ang topic natin...yup..Corruption...yun ang nakakaiyak...
Ibang klase yong joke mo...very classic....

[juVans]

How GOD created the Philippines

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Once upon a time in the kingdom of Heaven, God was
missing for sixdays. Eventually, Michael the Archangel
found him, resting on the seventh day.

He inquired of God, "Where have you been?"

God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly
pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look, Michael.
Look what I've made."
Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is
it?"
"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on
it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a
great place of balance."
"Balance?" inquired Michael, still confused.

God explained, pointing to different parts of
earth. "For example, northern Europe will be a place
of great opportunity and wealth, but cold and harsh
while southern Europe is going to be poor but sunny
and pleasant."
"I have made some lands abundant in water and other
lands parched deserts."
"This one will be extremely hot, while this one
will be very cold and covered in ice."

The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then
pointed to a group of islands and said, "What are
hose?"

"Ah," said God. "That's the Philippines, the most
glorious place on earth. There are beautiful beaches,
rivers, mountains and forests. The people from the
Philippines are going to be handsome, modest,
intelligent and humorous and they are going to be
found traveling the world. They will be extremely
sociable, hardworking and high achieving, and they
will be known throughout the world as carriers of
peace and love."

Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then
proclaimed, "What about balance, God?
You said there would be balance."

God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the idiots
I put in the government."



Isu met laeng a adu ti kurakot ta kasta gayam ti pannakadamili ti pagilyan tayo idi un-unana. Kakaasi tay a talaga, tsk tsk.

[daguerrson]

Thanks for that DECALOGUE OF ILLS JuVans. I can see you have a very comprehensive grasp on the problems that are deterrent to our national progress. You have just exposed the bitter truth. Truth so brutal and biting that even my humble self is not spared of getting hit. But thanks, just the same, I appreciate your candidness. :oops: :oops: