The Gospel According to Judas Iscariot

[gr8-one]

Umuna, kuna diay Da Vinci code nga nagasawa da Jesus kenni Mary Magdalene. Adda ti binangon da nga pamilya ket nagindeg da idiay France.

Itatta, rum-rumwar nga nagtungpal laeng ni Judas Iscariot iti bilin (met lang nga mismo ni apo Hesus) tapno matiliw dagiti Romans ni Jesus ket matay babaen iti pannaka-ilansa na iti krus.

So, Judas was not really that bad after all?

National Geographics Article --> http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/

Buyaenyon ton Domingo...

[MHTS]

This is very interesting. I want to share this to all of you about this topic.

When I was in High School attending a Bible Study class session in our church, I asked this question that thought will answer some of the findings about Judas.

If we know that Jesus' death is the redemption of our sins, that His death is the sacrifice for the atonement of humankind sins. Would we thank Judas for turning in Jesus to the Pharisees to die? After all, if Judas had not done it, Jesus wouldn't have died and, therefore no Redemption for our Sins?

In essence, Judas was just following what He was "prophesied" to do. It was his act that had been written in the Old testament that would lead the Savior to the cross for our Salvation. So, is it fair for Judas to be rejected, where in fact he was the main tool used for the delivery of the Lamb to be sacrificed?

My pastor answer was so appealing, I have to admit, my pastor really, is a great preacher.

Judas act of delivering Jesus to die on the cross of Calvary is not the reason why Judas is Bad. In fact, he was really following what had been prophesied for him to do. What gave him the impression of being bad - was his inability to repent. If Judas repented and ask forgiveness from God - he would have been forgiven and accepted in Heaven. But he never did and hung himself.

It is indeed hard to put all things together, but I firmly believe that we are still in control of the decisions we make. We decide what to do and what to follow, but I also believe that God always have good plans for all of us - only if we yield ourselves to Him.

[Myrna]

This is very interesting. I want to share this to all of you about this topic.

When I was in High School attending a Bible Study class session in our church, I asked this question that thought will answer some of the findings about Judas.

If we know that Jesus' death is the redemption of our sins, that His death is the sacrifice for the atonement of humankind sins. Would we thank Judas for turning in Jesus to the Pharisees to die? After all, if Judas had not done it, Jesus wouldn't have died and, therefore no Redemption for our Sins?

In essence, Judas was just following what He was "prophesied" to do. It was his act that had been written in the Old testament that would lead the Savior to the cross for our Salvation. So, is it fair for Judas to be rejected, where in fact he was the main tool used for the delivery of the Lamb to be sacrificed?

My pastor answer was so appealing, I have to admit, my pastor really, is a great preacher.

Judas act of delivering Jesus to die on the cross of Calvary is not the reason why Judas is Bad. In fact, he was really following what had been prophesied for him to do. What gave him the impression of being bad - was his inability to repent. If Judas repented and ask forgiveness from God - he would have been forgiven and accepted in Heaven. But he never did and hung himself.

It is indeed hard to put all things together, but I firmly believe that we are still in control of the decisions we make. We decide what to do and what to follow, but I also believe that God always have good plans for all of us - only if we yield ourselves to Him.I remember that too ading MHTS....in my theology class(HS & College)....and I agree with you...God Bless us all...

[gr8-one]

Judas Iscariot - the most-hated villain of all time - did realize that what he had done was wrong that's why he threw away those 30-pieces of silver and hung himself. It wasn't the right way to repent though but again - there was nothing Judas or anyone else (except God Himself) could have done because it was already prophesied.
In essence, Judas was just following what He was "prophesied" to do. It was his act that had been written in the Old testament that would lead the Savior to the cross for our Salvation. So, is it fair for Judas to be rejected, where in fact he was the main tool used for the delivery of the Lamb to be sacrificed?
There must be a deeper reason why the Gospel of Judas wasn't included in the New Testament. I think that if it was included in there, christians would probably have a different view of Judas Iscariot - perhaps we would have a more favorable view of him.

The first time they found Judas' gospel 1700 years ago, religious leaders condemned it as a heresy. It got lost again and found again in the 70's.

I have a feeling it wasn't really lost but there probably was a conspiracy to hide it :) :)

[juVans]

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Korek. May tama ka diyan, mg gr8.

Remember what happened in 8th century?

[gr8-one]

Remember what happened in 8th century?Please refresh my memory on that 8th century event juvans....

[juVans]

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You know what mg. Gr8, I am having second thoughts of discussing it here because it is a very delicate matter. The contents are very explosive and blasphemous.

I think, I'd rather inform you through PM.


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[shinme67]

This is very interesting. I want to share this to all of you about this topic.

When I was in High School attending a Bible Study class session in our church, I asked this question that thought will answer some of the findings about Judas.

If we know that Jesus' death is the redemption of our sins, that His death is the sacrifice for the atonement of humankind sins. Would we thank Judas for turning in Jesus to the Pharisees to die? After all, if Judas had not done it, Jesus wouldn't have died and, therefore no Redemption for our Sins?

In essence, Judas was just following what He was "prophesied" to do. It was his act that had been written in the Old testament that would lead the Savior to the cross for our Salvation. So, is it fair for Judas to be rejected, where in fact he was the main tool used for the delivery of the Lamb to be sacrificed?

My pastor answer was so appealing, I have to admit, my pastor really, is a great preacher.

Judas act of delivering Jesus to die on the cross of Calvary is not the reason why Judas is Bad. In fact, he was really following what had been prophesied for him to do. What gave him the impression of being bad - was his inability to repent. If Judas repented and ask forgiveness from God - he would have been forgiven and accepted in Heaven. But he never did and hung himself.

It is indeed hard to put all things together, but I firmly believe that we are still in control of the decisions we make. We decide what to do and what to follow, but I also believe that God always have good plans for all of us - only if we yield ourselves to Him.


i'm impressed on this comment. there is wisdom in it. its true that it was prophesied but we are always accoutable with the choices we make. It is also true that it was prophesied that in this last days, terrible days will come but we have to make our choice, to follow Christ? or to satisfy our fleshly desires? No matter what and who we are, after all is said and done, it is us who did what we did, even if the circumstances dragged us to do it. there are always consequences but if we cme to Christ, we are safe. I remember the song of Gary Valenciano, about falling and failing and standing in life, what is the secret? Gary sings, "Thay don't know that I came running home when I fall down...." let's run to God and He will turn our failures with a bright future. God Bless!

[touchstone]

Hi shinme67 welcome to INOL!

AMEN.

[daguerrson]

These 'gray areas' in the Bible are the favorite and fertile 'playgrounds' of fiction writers to weave their tales into masterpieces. Just be sensible. Do not lose your doctrinal perspectives, otherwise you will fall easy prey to their untruths and falsehoods.